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Old 9th Dec 2018, 08:01
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Originally Posted by Cloudee View Post
https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/577203...-072-final.pdf
A Navajo touched its prop tips on the Birdsville runway causing similar damage when it tried to land wheels up and then did a circuit to land with the wheels in the correct position, 4/7/16.
I seem to remember a Chieftain with bent props at YMRE a few years back too. Also think there might have been a larger aircraft that suffered similar damage.

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Old 9th Dec 2018, 08:08
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A CAsA Bonanza at Serpentine - but elected to fly back to Jandakot.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 08:30
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YMTG Speci at the time...not a great look

speci ymtg 080100z auto 17011kt 9999 // ovc004 16/15 q1018
speci ymtg 080130z auto 18011kt 9999 // ovc003 16/15 q1018
speci ymtg 080200z auto 18012kt 9999 // ovc004 16/15 q1018
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 08:42
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Originally Posted by 1/2 bank View Post
speci ymtg 080100z auto 17011kt 9999 // ovc004 16/15 q1018
speci ymtg 080130z auto 18011kt 9999 // ovc003 16/15 q1018
speci ymtg 080200z auto 18012kt 9999 // ovc004 16/15 q1018
Photo looks much better. One hell of a go around. Looks like the L/H eng might have a little bent shaft and let oil out.

A good recovery from a strong x wind.
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Strong crosswind?? 10kts straight down the runway
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Originally Posted by Xatrix View Post
Strong crosswind?? 10kts straight down the runway

"Bad weather, strong crosswind - totally stuffed up!"

Quote as above.
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Bend alot- maybe DF got it wrong with that quote.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 09:14
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Hmmm,

Maybe Bendalot, but look at a photo of a king air front on. Tell me with wheels down, what AoB would be have to be to touch the prop on one side - and not damage the wingtip - AND also then repeat on the other? Geometrically I don't think it is even possible (although I am not sure what diameter prop this has). My money is on a wheels up after a poor weather approach to minima realised at the last second and went around and the props hit. Only just touched though as the antenna is still ok.

Either way, poor bugger. Hope s/he's doing OK tonight. Do you still get a gig with QF these days once you've done a wheels up?

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Old 9th Dec 2018, 09:17
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Did something like this happen?
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Bend alot- maybe DF got it wrong with that quote.
That was what our source told me - blame him!

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Old 9th Dec 2018, 09:19
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Ok look. I admit that my flying skills are not always perfect, but I would have to suggest that if you’re doing that much damage with the wind light and literally straight down the runway you shouldn’t be in the skies. Not to mention the lack of professionalism landing below minima. (Could argue that once the damage was done it was essential to bust the minima to land ASAP, but hard to argue that beforehand). As a MTG regular I know that it can hang around for a fair while. As a former B200 driver (very well behaved aircraft) I find this quite bizarre.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 09:21
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Originally Posted by compressor stall View Post
Either way, poor bugger. Hope s/he's doing OK tonight. Do you still get a gig with QF these days once you've done a wheels up?
He's way past the age to get into QF!

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Old 9th Dec 2018, 09:23
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Originally Posted by compressor stall View Post
Hmmm,

Maybe Bendalot, but look at a photo of a king air front on. Tell me with wheels out, what AoB would be have to be to touch the prop on one side - and not damage the wingtip - AND also then repeat on the other? Geometrically is it even possible (although I am not sure what diameter prop this has).

Either way, poor bugger. Hope s/he's doing OK tonight. Do you still get a gig with QF these days once you've done a wheels up?

That mate is a prop strike.

Wing tip strike?? that is why my first comment was about flaps.

The stub wing (till nacelles) on a king air is pretty flat - then the wing gets higher from the ground as it goes out/bd - so the lowest point of wing is in/db flaps if extended - then the engine nacelles - wing tips a few feet higher than that.

https://www.ctsys.com/blog/entry/cts...-air-b200.html
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Shitty weather, concentrating on the approach, below minima, forgot the wheels, prop strike, go-around with Qtips now installed, low level return to RWY 18, wheels down this time, oh shit sadly !!

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Yes, a prop strike with a wheels up landing and go around as the props touched. I was editing as you were replying Bendalot.
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Originally Posted by On eyre View Post
Shitty weather, concentrating on the approach, below minima, forgot the wheels, prop strike, go-around with Qtips now installed, low level return to RWY 18, wheels down this time, oh shit !!
I think PPRuNe has solved another one! Wonder how long it will take and how much it will cost for the ATSB to come to the same conclusion?
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Will this be the end of a career?
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.......more like the end of the company!
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 12:07
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Same pilot forgot to put the wheels down on a DC3 at YPOD many years ago....

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Two pilots on board, one under training/ supervision at the time.
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