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1. The investigation report is incomplete
2. Are there any witnesses, or any confirmation, that aircraft entered a towering Cu, or CB
3. The matter is still possibly before the courts, and speculation is sub judice. Google it.
Give the crew the respect they deserve, they sadly cannot defend themselves.
AC50 near Daintree, Freight not pax
Was this the one from 2001?
Was this the one from 2001?
My apologies, trying to work and research and PPRuNe and answer phones all at the same time.
tio 540 with all due respects- 2 POB both pilots it is hard to call it a charter flight regardless of what happened.
There is only one reason the second pilot is there, it aint to go fishing at the destination.
You can also give respect to all concerned not just the 2.
Many hurt that day!
There is only one reason the second pilot is there, it aint to go fishing at the destination.
You can also give respect to all concerned not just the 2.
Many hurt that day!
.Aus Jet had two excellent Cheyenne III's and one was damaged beyond repair when a full time staff member, totally in-experienced, demolished their best Cheyenne III on a landing accident.
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tio 540 with all due respects- 2 POB both pilots it is hard to call it a charter flight regardless of what happened.
There is only one reason the second pilot is there, it aint to go fishing at the destination.
You can also give respect to all concerned not just the 2.
Many hurt that day!
There is only one reason the second pilot is there, it aint to go fishing at the destination.
You can also give respect to all concerned not just the 2.
Many hurt that day!
1. The phrase is “due respect”
2. The regs do not prevent a charter flight being conducted with two pilots.
3. A non flying pilot can be on board for several reasons.
4. Absolutely, the two pilots deserve respect, each one.
Out of interest in your opinion was the non flying pilot on board for any other reason than company requirement/business?
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The news reported the flight was a charter flight, transporting 1 deceased to a remote community.
A PF is often supported by a NF pilot, for ICUS, familiarization, or merely acting as a safety pilot.
A PF is often supported by a NF pilot, for ICUS, familiarization, or merely acting as a safety pilot.
Think it is a freight run or was a briefing given?
I have lost a few and nearly my blood - setal
The pilot in the LHS was brand new to Darwin, straight out of flying school. The pilot in the RHS was his “supervisory pilot” - there to provide line training. He was only “qualified” as such off the back of a couple of circuits within 24 hrs or so of the accident. He only had a couple hundred hours himself and had been in the region for a handful of months during the dry season.
As offered above - not the aircraft’s failing, more likely a function of structured training lacking, pervading culture within the organisation and a shortage of experience all round to develop the newbies.
As offered above - not the aircraft’s failing, more likely a function of structured training lacking, pervading culture within the organisation and a shortage of experience all round to develop the newbies.
A310R Bathurst Island, 2011.
This C310 at Bathurst Island is one such.
This thread has gone so disgustingly off topic.
Not so much disgusting as irrelevant, and in some posts, irrational.
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“Experienced” is a matter of opinion that is unfortunately too varied these days. The term fluctuates with the job market and supply/demand of pilots.
Check out the ad in The Australian - "Expressions of interest are sought to acquire the business and/or assets of the Ausjet Group".
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Private Pilot, Private ops.
CASA was PIC. couldn't possibly be the PICs fault, they are the ultimate Authority on aviation Safety.
AC50, near Torres FREIGHT NOT PAX the pilot, who was also the operator’s chief pilot, had either not met the recency requirements or did not have an endorsement to conduct the types of instrument approaches available at Horn Island
AC50 near Clonbinane, Private flight, Tools/LAME not pax
AC50 near Daintree, CHTR - 3 Pax
Seneca Bankstown, - VH-CTT - Flight Training not Pax
Duchess Camden, - 2003 - JWX - Flight training/Testing not Pax
C337 south of Kalgoorlie - ATSB shows no such accident
BN2 Coconut - 1999 - AGREED.
Queenair near Mount Garnet. ATSB shows no such accident
PA31 Whyalla - AGREED - but that was RPT, and in 2001 (over 17 years ago). It's Charter that's really dangerous and RPT that's really safe, remember?
CASA was PIC. couldn't possibly be the PICs fault, they are the ultimate Authority on aviation Safety.
AC50, near Torres FREIGHT NOT PAX the pilot, who was also the operator’s chief pilot, had either not met the recency requirements or did not have an endorsement to conduct the types of instrument approaches available at Horn Island
AC50 near Clonbinane, Private flight, Tools/LAME not pax
AC50 near Daintree, CHTR - 3 Pax
Seneca Bankstown, - VH-CTT - Flight Training not Pax
Duchess Camden, - 2003 - JWX - Flight training/Testing not Pax
C337 south of Kalgoorlie - ATSB shows no such accident
BN2 Coconut - 1999 - AGREED.
Queenair near Mount Garnet. ATSB shows no such accident
PA31 Whyalla - AGREED - but that was RPT, and in 2001 (over 17 years ago). It's Charter that's really dangerous and RPT that's really safe, remember?
How can CASA be PIC? I would have thought that would be pretty difficult when you aren't in a control seat.
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