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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 01:57
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Waterbombing B737

Dollar values seem very low....
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-...first/10547636
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 03:26
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It's a shitbox old 737-300 from Southwest, currently registered N137CG and operating as "Bomber 137" from Richmond. The two 737-300's I've been able to find an online price for are going for $2.9 & $3.9M USD, so it's likely the figure is accurate. What's surprising to me is the article says NSWRFS purchased them outright...

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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 07:31
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Assuming this is true about ownership...
Fire season lengths are changing, the hemisphere to hemisphere aircraft exchange pattern is breaking down, and shoulder season fire intensity increases mean that agencies have good reason to want their own kit.

Also, fireys love fancy machines and the state govt needs good news stories.
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 08:40
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Victoria's to Large Air Tankers were meant to arrive on November 15th but California have extended there contract til early December and they are now expected to arrive before Christmas, this is the issue with not owning our own, we get them when they are released from the US not whenever we need them. Plus the lease's don't come cheap.
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 11:14
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I presume its not a scoop pickup lol
'Sir, the tanks are full but the engines seem to have stopped'
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 14:09
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What's surprising to me is the article says NSWRFS purchased them outright...
How times change. It is not that long that airborne assets were derided.
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 20:50
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Who's flying them?
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 21:21
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Coulson Air Tankers...

Very experienced firebomber crews...
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 22:10
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Originally Posted by unexplained blip View Post
Assuming this is true about ownership...
Fire season lengths are changing, the hemisphere to hemisphere aircraft exchange pattern is breaking down, and shoulder season fire intensity increases mean that agencies have good reason to want their own kit.

Also, fireys love fancy machines and the state govt needs good news stories.
Sorry to burst your good news story but according to Coulson's website the 737 are there on a 5 year contract only. Sounds like the only time they may leave is if they need to come back to Canada for heavy maintenance.

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Old 24th Nov 2018, 01:55
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I love water bombers after fighting two fires with them in support. We were lucky enough to have two dromaders(?) dumping every five minutes at one fire and the whole lot (helis + C130’s )at the other in the King valley.
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I just wish authorities would get over the phobia of amphib bombers and honestly trial the CL415s for a season.
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Old 29th Nov 2018, 10:42
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Where are the Canadian lakes in outback Queensland? They can't plop down on a river, and the next bet is a water storage dam, probably covered in wires?
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Old 29th Nov 2018, 13:06
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Where are the Canadian lakes in outback Queensland? They can't plop down on a river, and the next bet is a water storage dam, probably covered in wires?
Canadair did and published study last century when a CL415 was here on a sales mission. It proved that there were enough water in rivers and dams along the eastern seaboard to support the operation of these aircraft.
At that time in history, aerial assets was a four letter word.
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CL415 can be loaded on land don't forget...
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Old 30th Nov 2018, 01:48
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Originally Posted by KRviator View Post
It's a shitbox old 737-300 from Southwest, currently registered N137CG and operating as "Bomber 137" from Richmond. The two 737-300's I've been able to find an online price for are going for $2.9 & $3.9M USD, so it's likely the figure is accurate. What's surprising to me is the article says NSWRFS purchased them outright...
Kraviator you have a “shit box old mentality” hahaha hahaha hahahahaha

Good to see you are “ current” on FlightAware...hahaha hahhaha hhahha
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Originally Posted by FPDO View Post
Kraviator you have a “shit box old mentality” hahaha hahaha hahahahaha

Good to see you are “ current” on FlightAware...hahaha hahhaha hhahha
Ridicule and derision are among the oldest and most pathetic attempts to prove your point, but anyway...I'm not sure what else you would call an airframe that ran up 70,000-odd thousand hours and around 57,000 cycles in revenue service over 22 years before being retired? Successful, yes, but polish a turd it's still a turd.

By the way, for someone who seems to be so hung up on spelling, you could at least try to get my username right...
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As usual the Yanks come and save the Aussies this time with 737 firebombers ( all be it shitboxes ) Imagine trying to get an Australian brain around converting a B737 to firebomber. Then your MORON regulator CASA complete idiots would give 800,000 reasons it wont work. KEEP AMERICA GREAT.

USA went to the moon and inventor. Airplane,Electricity, light bulb, motorcar,Jeans, Burgers, computer, internet,iPhone and YES THE B747/737/DC10 Fire bomber to name a few good work.

Australia inventor of the dobber, red light camera and multi layer regulations for everything hahahaha what a place.
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Pretty sure we invented WiFi
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Did you mean 'albeit'....?
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Boeing 737 water bomber

I am actively involved in fire scanning the Queensland fires.
Last Wednesday I was standing on the tarmac at Rockhampton airport. While we watched a large and intense fire started to the west of Rockhampton, near a town of 8,000 people, called Gracemere. The B737 water bomber was on the tarmac. It was already filled with its load of water, and the crew quickly started up and taxied out. It flew to the fire field at 2,500 feet, and visible all the while, made its run over the fire. We could not see the actual drop. A short time later it emerged from the cloud of smoke and tracked directly to a close left base for a landing to the north west. After taxiing to the tarmac it was parked as closely as possible to the water hydrant, the left engine was left running, the hose attached and the water onloaded, and the aircraft departed again. This took about 25 minutes. This procedure was repeated three times while we were there. The fire was quickly extinguished.
The town of Gracemere was evacuated because the wind was blowing the fire directly towards it.
In my opinion, the professionalism of the crew, and the efficient design of the aircraft saved every house in Gracemere.
The fact that it is an old airframe, with many hours and cycles is irrelevant. The fact that it has been modified to be an effective water bomber and it is operated by a well trained professional crew is the important aspect. I would say that every resident of Gracemere is grateful for that aircraft.



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