Waterbombing B737
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Bend a lot.
I know they are 4 engines. I said that I was an LAME on those types at one stage.
Getting a military type on the Australian register is only as difficult as the Feds /CASA make it. If they want them there it will be done.
Given the number of 4 engine types in Canada and the US there must be a reason for it. Free airframes would contribute I suggest. I'm sure outfits like Buffalo, Conair and Airspray don't do it at a loss?
Having said that the B737/Bae option seems a good one. I still think that a standard type is the way to go for the large fire bombing fleet and I still think it should be Federal.
The French Securite Civile is an interesting model to work from.
Wunwing
I know they are 4 engines. I said that I was an LAME on those types at one stage.
Getting a military type on the Australian register is only as difficult as the Feds /CASA make it. If they want them there it will be done.
Given the number of 4 engine types in Canada and the US there must be a reason for it. Free airframes would contribute I suggest. I'm sure outfits like Buffalo, Conair and Airspray don't do it at a loss?
Having said that the B737/Bae option seems a good one. I still think that a standard type is the way to go for the large fire bombing fleet and I still think it should be Federal.
The French Securite Civile is an interesting model to work from.
Wunwing
In 2 separate sentences.
I have an AMO and an aircraft and CAsA would I rather neither, and put ex-military on the register but in a very restricted capacity.
Personally if we (Australia) had 20 x C130 free frames on offer the C130 might be a current consideration but with expensive fuel/operation costs inc landing fees and engine overhauls.
But we don't that ship passed and not sure how many there were anyway.
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There were 12. At least 3 are still around at museums and training facilities. Most of the civil US Hercs are A models so even a derelict H model has potential. We have a wealth of knowledge of C130 ops and maintenance in this country so pulling an operation together shouldn't be hard if there is a will to do it.
Then there are still extant RAAF Orions both operating and loaners to Museums. There is one Orion operating right now in the US and at least 5 others coming out of storage plus 1 with Buffalo, all ex Aero Union.The engineering for more (ex RAAF?) has already been proved and FAA approved. If CASA wanted to it could be another version of the L188. There is grounds for that in the common licensing of a very diverse HS125 and on, type.
It would be interesting to know the cost of operating an Alison plus prop verses a CFM engine? Somebody on here should know that given that there were up to recently Alisons operated on the CV580Fs of Pionair.
And I still think that given the extreme weather events aren't going away, that the French Civile Securite type ops is worthy of detailed examination?
Wunwing
Then there are still extant RAAF Orions both operating and loaners to Museums. There is one Orion operating right now in the US and at least 5 others coming out of storage plus 1 with Buffalo, all ex Aero Union.The engineering for more (ex RAAF?) has already been proved and FAA approved. If CASA wanted to it could be another version of the L188. There is grounds for that in the common licensing of a very diverse HS125 and on, type.
It would be interesting to know the cost of operating an Alison plus prop verses a CFM engine? Somebody on here should know that given that there were up to recently Alisons operated on the CV580Fs of Pionair.
And I still think that given the extreme weather events aren't going away, that the French Civile Securite type ops is worthy of detailed examination?
Wunwing
