Can you fly with expired ASIC?
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Seems nonsensical when you consider a BC (or a naturalisation cerficate) has to be provided to support a passport application.
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I think we need a law that says anyone who questions the efficacy of the ASIC system is a risk to security and therefore to be refused an ASIC - and hopefully interned indefinitely. Such a step would be in the interests of security.
We can’t let the fear of terrorism change our freedoms or the way we go about our daily lives. Otherwise the terrorists have won.
We can’t let the fear of terrorism change our freedoms or the way we go about our daily lives. Otherwise the terrorists have won.
Made me laugh Not a dangerous assertion just a statement of fact. If you can fly, you can fly without a medical, without a license, without an ASIC. Not sure it makes an aircraft unairworthy,or the pilot incompetent - except as it relates to being compliant.. But certainly means you'd be flying illegally. No insurance and subject to penalty. But your ability to fly would remain unaffected.
When I fly in China and they ask for my Aviation or Crew ID out of interest when I show them my CASA ASIC the Chinese refuse to accept it as it doesn’t say CREW ID” or “AVIATION ID” anywhere on it.
ASIC is a joke that is unfit for purpose. Took me 6 weeks to get a renewed one, and them asking for a renewal every two years is just gross revenue gathering.
ASIC is a joke that is unfit for purpose. Took me 6 weeks to get a renewed one, and them asking for a renewal every two years is just gross revenue gathering.
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Egipps and ramble on.
Egipps and ramble on.
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Of course one might be compliant but that will not necessarily mean one is safe.
Compliance is a static paperwork status, safety (of flight) is whole different dynamic beast entirely.
CC
except as it relates to being compliant.
Compliance is a static paperwork status, safety (of flight) is whole different dynamic beast entirely.
CC
How long are most people waiting to get their new ASIC issued? Submitted my application 6 weeks ago and I have received nothing other than being told than my application has been approved and essentially wait....
If I needed the card for employment and had to wait over 6 weeks, I would be ropable particularly if I wasn't getting paid. Next time I will submit 3 months in advance to ensure I don't end up with an expired card. For the money we need to pay, the delay in processing time is ridiculous particularly considering that I've held a pilots licence for over 30 years, what's the place coming too??
If I needed the card for employment and had to wait over 6 weeks, I would be ropable particularly if I wasn't getting paid. Next time I will submit 3 months in advance to ensure I don't end up with an expired card. For the money we need to pay, the delay in processing time is ridiculous particularly considering that I've held a pilots licence for over 30 years, what's the place coming too??
Finally collected my ASIC a couple of weeks ago, however the process has a lot to be desired particularly considering my background as a licenced pilot in Australia and the absorbent cost for the card. To the issuers credit (CASA) the new ASIC was issued from the month I collected it and no from the month my previous card expired.
The complicated and stupid process lies with the rule makers in Canberra, not the ASIC team or front end distributors, particularly considering the fact that they will not accept a current passport as a form of identification and mandate that only original birth certificates are allowed - what a load of sh!t particularly for someone who has held an ASIC from literally day one when they were first mandated by legislation.
The complicated and stupid process lies with the rule makers in Canberra, not the ASIC team or front end distributors, particularly considering the fact that they will not accept a current passport as a form of identification and mandate that only original birth certificates are allowed - what a load of sh!t particularly for someone who has held an ASIC from literally day one when they were first mandated by legislation.
So what happens if you are one of the many who have lost their birth certificate years ago? No ASIC? Fine then I will carry on without one.
In all the years I have had one since introduced I have only been asked to display it twice. Both times at a country airport just as the Rex was approaching,by some overly keen council worker. Turn up outside these times no one's home.
In all the years I have had one since introduced I have only been asked to display it twice. Both times at a country airport just as the Rex was approaching,by some overly keen council worker. Turn up outside these times no one's home.
Suggest you seek information from the CASA ASIC team, their number is listed on the CASA website. Just remember that they aren’t calling the shots, they are only delivering the product under explicit instructions that have been dictated by our great decision makers in the big town of Canberra.
So what happens if you are one of the many who have lost their birth certificate years ago? No ASIC?
Many have been caught out and have had to contact their births deaths and marriages registry in their state for a new one.
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I realised I had an extract, just never needed more until now!
I now have a fancy new birth certificate, just no ASIC yet.
My company paid for the birth certificate as it is required.
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Hail. This is particularly an annoying rule when you’re not actually a pilot, but you’re an Aero club member. And your clubhouse is in the Airside area of an airport. And you’re blind, and everybody thinks that you can’t do anything just because of that. Canberra Airport is the worst, with two factor authentication, and security everywhere.
I’d like to know if the ASIC vetting process actually rejects anyone with good reason. Judging by the numbers of dodgy baggage handlers with ASICS in Sydney and Melbourne over the years, I’d say the buggeration factor far exceeds its value.
It gets worse when everything was lost in the fire and you have a mother that refuses to accept that she gave birth to such a **** kid.
Last edited by Xeptu; 17th Oct 2021 at 00:00. Reason: Futile attempt of humour added a smiley face