Can you fly with expired ASIC?
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Can you fly with expired ASIC?
Anyone know what the rules are regarding operating with an expired ASIC (obviously not operating at a security controlled aerodrome)?
I remember that if one did not apply for an ASIC they needed an AVID to be legally allowed to operate an aircraft. Does an expired ASIC mean your security status reverts to AVID status or can you not operate at all?
Cheers for any input
I remember that if one did not apply for an ASIC they needed an AVID to be legally allowed to operate an aircraft. Does an expired ASIC mean your security status reverts to AVID status or can you not operate at all?
Cheers for any input
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Anyone know what the rules are regarding operating with an expired ASIC (obviously not operating at a security controlled aerodrome)?
I remember that if one did not apply for an ASIC they needed an AVID to be legally allowed to operate an aircraft. Does an expired ASIC mean your security status reverts to AVID status or can you not operate at all?
Cheers for any input
I remember that if one did not apply for an ASIC they needed an AVID to be legally allowed to operate an aircraft. Does an expired ASIC mean your security status reverts to AVID status or can you not operate at all?
Cheers for any input
Are pilots still allowed to fly without an ASIC?
Yes. Pilots only need to have submitted an application for an AVID or an ASIC to operate an aircraft. The application will be processed and appropriate background checks undertaken prior to the AVID or ASIC being issued to an eligible pilot.
So if you just file your application for renewal, you should be ok, no?
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On https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-pag...tions-answered it says:
Are pilots still allowed to fly without an ASIC?
Yes. Pilots only need to have submitted an application for an AVID or an ASIC to operate an aircraft. The application will be processed and appropriate background checks undertaken prior to the AVID or ASIC being issued to an eligible pilot.
So if you just file your application for renewal, you should be ok, no?
Are pilots still allowed to fly without an ASIC?
Yes. Pilots only need to have submitted an application for an AVID or an ASIC to operate an aircraft. The application will be processed and appropriate background checks undertaken prior to the AVID or ASIC being issued to an eligible pilot.
So if you just file your application for renewal, you should be ok, no?
Does CASA still process the AVID? Haven't seen one of those in years.
ASICs are a pain in the butt and likely to get more expensive over the next couple of years thanks to the cyber security compliance requirements imposed after this years hack.
ASICs are a pain in the butt and likely to get more expensive over the next couple of years thanks to the cyber security compliance requirements imposed after this years hack.
I know plenty of pilots who don’t bother to renew and RAAus pilots don’t need one in the first place. I’d suggest it’s better to ask forgiveness than to ask for permission in the very unlikely event you are questioned.
I work at a school that does both RAAus and GA so I think we are on top of the requirements. Happy to look at any links you want to post to back up your claims.
Cheers.
From CASA.
The fees below apply as of 1 August 2017.
The fees below apply as of 1 August 2017.
- Under 18 ASIC – $198.50
Note: ASIC will be valid for 6 months after 18th birthday - Initial ASIC – full security check required $256.50
- ASIC renewal – $256.50
- Replacement of an ASIC - $108.00
Are you mad, CC?
If a PIC does not have a current ASIC the aircraft will be consequentially unairworthy and the pilot consequentially incompetent.
Frankly I’m surprised you’d make such a dangerous assertion.
If a PIC does not have a current ASIC the aircraft will be consequentially unairworthy and the pilot consequentially incompetent.
Frankly I’m surprised you’d make such a dangerous assertion.
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Nope, definitely can't fly with an expired ASIC. Scientifically proven that there will be a loss of lift without it... 
Haven't you heard it stands for 'Advanced Surface Increasing Canard' and you won't find it on any aircraft MEL which means the aircraft is grounded without it...
Haven't you heard it stands for 'Advanced Surface Increasing Canard' and you won't find it on any aircraft MEL which means the aircraft is grounded without it...
I think RAAUS pulled the pin on being an issuing body when the ID proofing requirements came in.
Shop around, you might find it cheaper with another IB.
https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about...issuing-bodies
But if you have to go to Auspost for the ID check then it will be even more outrageously expensive.
$256 to renew? **** that’s a lot of beer money - time to put my consultation rates up.
https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about...issuing-bodies
But if you have to go to Auspost for the ID check then it will be even more outrageously expensive.
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Thanks for the replies, useful info.
While we're at it, does anyone know if the secondary Class D (old GAAP) airports like Moorabbin, Archerfield, Parafield etc require the display of an ASIC. In the ERSA they are listed as "security controlled" aerodromes but I remember a number of years back even with that status, there was an exemption that no ASIC was required if you didn't go near RPT areas etc.
While we're at it, does anyone know if the secondary Class D (old GAAP) airports like Moorabbin, Archerfield, Parafield etc require the display of an ASIC. In the ERSA they are listed as "security controlled" aerodromes but I remember a number of years back even with that status, there was an exemption that no ASIC was required if you didn't go near RPT areas etc.
You need to display your ASIC when airside at Moorabbin.