Stupidist radio call
Probably worth mentioning that the "numbers" is not a chat frequency and not for swapping s#~*t.
http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/...ip/general.pdf
AIP GEN 3.4-4
3.1.5 Interpilot Air-to-Air Communication. In accordance with regional agreements, 123.45MHZ is designated as the air-to-air VHF communications channel. Use of this channel will enable aircraft engaged in flights over remote and oceanic areas out of range of VHF ground stations to exchange necessary operational information and to facilitate the resolution of operational problems.
http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/...5-Nov-2012.pdf
ERSA NAVIGATION AND COMMUNICATIONS NAV/COMM-1
4. AIR-TO-AIR COMMUNICATIONS - CIVIL
4.1 Interpilot air-to-air communications in Australian FIRs may be conducted on frequency 123.45MHZ. Communications between aircraft on this frequency are restricted to the exchange of information relating to aircraft operations. Communications are to be established by either a directed call to a specific aircraft or a general call, taking into account conditions pertaining to the use of the particular channel. As target aircraft may be guarding more than one frequency, the initial call should include the distinctive channel identification "INTERPILOT" or identification of the air-to-air frequency.
Kaz
http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/...ip/general.pdf
AIP GEN 3.4-4
3.1.5 Interpilot Air-to-Air Communication. In accordance with regional agreements, 123.45MHZ is designated as the air-to-air VHF communications channel. Use of this channel will enable aircraft engaged in flights over remote and oceanic areas out of range of VHF ground stations to exchange necessary operational information and to facilitate the resolution of operational problems.
http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/...5-Nov-2012.pdf
ERSA NAVIGATION AND COMMUNICATIONS NAV/COMM-1
4. AIR-TO-AIR COMMUNICATIONS - CIVIL
4.1 Interpilot air-to-air communications in Australian FIRs may be conducted on frequency 123.45MHZ. Communications between aircraft on this frequency are restricted to the exchange of information relating to aircraft operations. Communications are to be established by either a directed call to a specific aircraft or a general call, taking into account conditions pertaining to the use of the particular channel. As target aircraft may be guarding more than one frequency, the initial call should include the distinctive channel identification "INTERPILOT" or identification of the air-to-air frequency.
Kaz
In the interests of being technically accurate in future, I'll revert to my previous
talking frequency of FNQ. "Any spruikers on low??"
"Agreed. If PAPIs are installed you'd be an idiot not to activate them."
Pull your head in Aerocat. Just because you can't fly a 3 degree profile on final without the aid of a VASI on a cavok day doesn't mean the rest of us are IDIOTS because we can. Put em on if you want, but if I can look out the window and fly down to the runway nicely, that doesn't make me or anyone else an idiot.
Pull your head in Aerocat. Just because you can't fly a 3 degree profile on final without the aid of a VASI on a cavok day doesn't mean the rest of us are IDIOTS because we can. Put em on if you want, but if I can look out the window and fly down to the runway nicely, that doesn't make me or anyone else an idiot.
OT, but some years back there were two other "Interpilot" frequencies, 126.35 below FL200 and 128.95 above.
Both are now allocated & licensed to particular organisations and services and also designated for TIBA (AIP GEN 3.3-25), yet 126.35 seems to be popular with the SPA fraternity for air to air chat.
Both are now allocated & licensed to particular organisations and services and also designated for TIBA (AIP GEN 3.3-25), yet 126.35 seems to be popular with the SPA fraternity for air to air chat.
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All examples of amusing calls I have overheard. Number one is an oldie, but a goodie.
Tower: "ABC, say again call sign only."
ABC: "Call sign only."
Aircraft in training area to another: "What is your position?"
The other aircraft: "You are in my three o'clock."
International student switching to Tower frequency at holding point: "Tower, ABC cleared for takeoff."
Tower: "Oh alright then. Cleared for takeoff."
Tower: "ABC, say again call sign only."
ABC: "Call sign only."
Aircraft in training area to another: "What is your position?"
The other aircraft: "You are in my three o'clock."
International student switching to Tower frequency at holding point: "Tower, ABC cleared for takeoff."
Tower: "Oh alright then. Cleared for takeoff."
"Agreed. If PAPIs are installed you'd be an idiot not to activate them."
Pull your head in Aerocat. Just because you can't fly a 3 degree profile on final without the aid of a VASI on a cavok day doesn't mean the rest of us are IDIOTS because we can. Put em on if you want, but if I can look out the window and fly down to the runway nicely, that doesn't make me or anyone else an idiot.
Pull your head in Aerocat. Just because you can't fly a 3 degree profile on final without the aid of a VASI on a cavok day doesn't mean the rest of us are IDIOTS because we can. Put em on if you want, but if I can look out the window and fly down to the runway nicely, that doesn't make me or anyone else an idiot.
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Not a radio call but a headset comment from cockpit to ground.
"Two good starts, cleared to disconnect "
WTF are bad starts in a modern jet and does the engineer give a rats?
"Two good starts, cleared to disconnect "
WTF are bad starts in a modern jet and does the engineer give a rats?
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Two from an ATC sim session long ago in a place far away
Same student, same session! [Student in the pilot room as well.]
Pilot: "Tower say the wind"
TWR: "the wind"
Pilot: "Negative say the wind direction and speed"
TWR: "the wind direction and speed"
Pilot: Negative negative what is the wind"
TWR (clearly remembering MET 101: "Air in motion".
And the classic, later in the session having completely lost the picture and just as a visitor (only CDF in company with the Base Commander, CO and CI) entered the sim:
"All aircraft this frequency make one left hand orbit".
Even though he was only a pseudo RW pilot from the Army the look on the General's face said, "Fail that lad immediately!".
If you're reading this Billy B - I still remember that tragic performance in 1980.
MJG
thankfully no longer plagued with such nonsense
Pilot: "Tower say the wind"
TWR: "the wind"
Pilot: "Negative say the wind direction and speed"
TWR: "the wind direction and speed"
Pilot: Negative negative what is the wind"
TWR (clearly remembering MET 101: "Air in motion".
And the classic, later in the session having completely lost the picture and just as a visitor (only CDF in company with the Base Commander, CO and CI) entered the sim:
"All aircraft this frequency make one left hand orbit".
Even though he was only a pseudo RW pilot from the Army the look on the General's face said, "Fail that lad immediately!".
If you're reading this Billy B - I still remember that tragic performance in 1980.
MJG
thankfully no longer plagued with such nonsense
More professional pilots with “ing” phobia..
Heard yesterday, around 10am EST:
(I gave up counting the number of “of the field”s I heard from numerous pilots.
In the interests of education, please note everyone stooging around VFR that you are allowed to say this:
“Kickatinalong traffic, Jizzler Alpha Bravo Charlie is one two miles South, inbound at three thousand five hundred, circuit area at one seven, Kickatinalong.”
..instead of this:
“Kickatinalong traffic this is Jizzler Alpha Bravo Charlie. I’m currently one two nautical miles South of the field, inbound at three thousand five hundred feet and estimating the circuit area at seventeen minutes past the hour, Kickatinalong traffic.”
The first version conveys exactly the same information as the second, without clogging up the airwaves for as long.
If and when there’s a ‘low level’ multicom of 126.7 and a default CTAF of 126.7, brevity will become even more important.)
Melbourne Centre Q Link seventy nine delta taxis Mildura...
In the interests of education, please note everyone stooging around VFR that you are allowed to say this:
“Kickatinalong traffic, Jizzler Alpha Bravo Charlie is one two miles South, inbound at three thousand five hundred, circuit area at one seven, Kickatinalong.”
..instead of this:
“Kickatinalong traffic this is Jizzler Alpha Bravo Charlie. I’m currently one two nautical miles South of the field, inbound at three thousand five hundred feet and estimating the circuit area at seventeen minutes past the hour, Kickatinalong traffic.”
The first version conveys exactly the same information as the second, without clogging up the airwaves for as long.
If and when there’s a ‘low level’ multicom of 126.7 and a default CTAF of 126.7, brevity will become even more important.)
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It might be incorrect according to the Rools, but it is far more effective to say:
"Traffic Whykickamoocow,..." instead of "Whykickamoocow traffic.." because the first word is often lost to the hearing aircraft, due to inattention, the time it takes to activate the brain that a radio call is coming, or the sender cutting off half the word.
"Traffic Whykickamoocow,..." instead of "Whykickamoocow traffic.." because the first word is often lost to the hearing aircraft, due to inattention, the time it takes to activate the brain that a radio call is coming, or the sender cutting off half the word.
Ascend, tell that to the dimwits that introduced "World's Best Practice" Yankese. There was a reason why we have "All Stations Ykickamoocow" for our Area broadcasts, but No, what would we know???
It might be incorrect according to the Rools, but it is far more effective to say:
"Traffic Whykickamoocow,..." instead of "Whykickamoocow traffic.." because the first word is often lost to the hearing aircraft, due to inattention, the time it takes to activate the brain that a radio call is coming, or the sender cutting off half the word.
"Traffic Whykickamoocow,..." instead of "Whykickamoocow traffic.." because the first word is often lost to the hearing aircraft, due to inattention, the time it takes to activate the brain that a radio call is coming, or the sender cutting off half the word.
Slow and concise please!
(And BTW: The content is not determined by the “Rools”. It’s just recommended.)
But it is a waste of brainspace having to listen to the whole call just to hear the end word ..."Oodnagalahbi" when you are near Kickatinalong. You could have diverted your attention on the second word, and gone back to posting cockpit selfies on Bookface.
You make a good point.
tell that to the dimwits that introduced "World's Best Practice" Yankese.
I just learned something new!! Yep!! I still can!!
After all these years flying in the US, next time I will have to remember to say "traffic, Big Chief Dead Horse -----" instead of "all stations -----" that I didn't say previously, either.
Tootle pip!!
PS:
and gone back to posting cockpit selfies on Bookface.
Anecdote from ex RAF guy who was in Nth Africa on a training camp...out of UK for the blue sky weather.
Circuit full of jet fighters and others taxying in and departing.
On taxi the tower guy sees one trailing flames and smoke as it passes by and makes the call 'Aircraft passing the tower you have a fire !!'
And on the downwind there is a puff of smoke from another fighter as the pilot ejects..!!
Oops !!
Circuit full of jet fighters and others taxying in and departing.
On taxi the tower guy sees one trailing flames and smoke as it passes by and makes the call 'Aircraft passing the tower you have a fire !!'
And on the downwind there is a puff of smoke from another fighter as the pilot ejects..!!
Oops !!
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AN EJECTION FROM REAL LIFE
Butterworth in 1978 or 79.
Sparrows, coming off the range join downwind.
"Classic Sparrow 1 base three greens full stop"
MJG: "Classic Sparrow Clear to Land check wheels"
"Sparrow 1" Beep beep
"Sparrow 2 base three greens"
"Sparrow 2 check wheels"
beep beep
"Sparrow three base three wheels"
"Sparrow three check wheels"
beep beep
Every alert, young MJG notices that his old school mate MH has decided to give Mirage flying a miss for the day and take up parachuting so he strikes the big red button and creates some noise around the base and in the fire station.
"Tower, Sparrow three, are you aware Sparrow two has ejected"
"Affirmative" finger off the transmit, I thought, "might be the reason the firies are moving out!!. "
Some years later during the radar trials for Tindal Sparrow Three (DEVICE) told me that I had actually transmitted the last part.
Not my month as a few weeks later when doing what I thought was an excellent traffic direction during night flying, Crowey told me, "Max, turning left to avoid the married quarters and ejecting."
Turned around to tell the APPSVR what was occurring only to see that in the group of wives visiting approach that night was his wife!!
MJG
Sparrows, coming off the range join downwind.
"Classic Sparrow 1 base three greens full stop"
MJG: "Classic Sparrow Clear to Land check wheels"
"Sparrow 1" Beep beep
"Sparrow 2 base three greens"
"Sparrow 2 check wheels"
beep beep
"Sparrow three base three wheels"
"Sparrow three check wheels"
beep beep
Every alert, young MJG notices that his old school mate MH has decided to give Mirage flying a miss for the day and take up parachuting so he strikes the big red button and creates some noise around the base and in the fire station.
"Tower, Sparrow three, are you aware Sparrow two has ejected"
"Affirmative" finger off the transmit, I thought, "might be the reason the firies are moving out!!. "
Some years later during the radar trials for Tindal Sparrow Three (DEVICE) told me that I had actually transmitted the last part.
Not my month as a few weeks later when doing what I thought was an excellent traffic direction during night flying, Crowey told me, "Max, turning left to avoid the married quarters and ejecting."
Turned around to tell the APPSVR what was occurring only to see that in the group of wives visiting approach that night was his wife!!
MJG
I think that happened in 1977. The Crow ejected out of A3-94 of 3 December 1977.