Latest information on CASA giant 40nm 5,000 foot CTAFs
Thread Starter
I understand RAs mainly occur in controlled airspace due to pilot or controller error.
Are you suggesting this is an airspace design problem?
With so many of our airlines operating into places like Ballina and Port Macquarie where there is no transponder requirement for VFR I suppose there is less chance of RAs occurring.
But you don’t complain about this. I am proud I negotiated the most onerous class E transponder requirements in the world. I sold it on the fact that VFR may get reduced delays. I was conned on that one- the E was changed to C but the transponder requirement remained. Part of the almost complete lack of ethics in the Canberra system!
Total one way ratchet of increasing costs and screwing GA. Ha Ha. Chickens coming home to roost. Training industry almost destroyed. Must make you feel terrible!
Are you suggesting this is an airspace design problem?
With so many of our airlines operating into places like Ballina and Port Macquarie where there is no transponder requirement for VFR I suppose there is less chance of RAs occurring.
But you don’t complain about this. I am proud I negotiated the most onerous class E transponder requirements in the world. I sold it on the fact that VFR may get reduced delays. I was conned on that one- the E was changed to C but the transponder requirement remained. Part of the almost complete lack of ethics in the Canberra system!
Total one way ratchet of increasing costs and screwing GA. Ha Ha. Chickens coming home to roost. Training industry almost destroyed. Must make you feel terrible!
So if I've got this right LeadSled, I'll be able to cruise over Tullamarine willy nilly in class E at any time? That's what I'm hearing... have we ever been able to do that?
If that is the way the airspace was set up, above whatever the height of C was, the answer is yes.
I suppose you know that you can fly over Los Angeles International (and many other major US airports) in Class B airspace, in designated lanes, and nobody gets their knickers in a twist.
A lot of you could do with a dose of experience outside Australia, but particularly in US and Canada, to see how easy it is, things that you seem to imagine are beyond the pale (or, if you prefer, Pale).
And how well Class E works.
Tootle pip!!
Nice attempt at a diversion Dick. The question (yet again) is if the aircraft were going to miss by as much as you claim and it was never a problem then why was there a TCAS RA event?
Thread Starter
Because there has never ever been a requirement or training for a VFR pilot using alerted see and avoid with another aircraft to remain so far apart that a RA does not take place.
CASA has not seen a requirement for that.
CASA has not seen a requirement for that.
Le Ping,
Do you actually know anything about the programming of TCAS/ACAS in various modes. I do.
If you did, you would understand there is nothing inconsistent with an adequate separation determined by visual on the other aircraft and an RA.
During the same period there was what was, in my opinion, a far worse event north of Brisbane.
In my opinion, and many others, an airline aircraft changed heading to deliberately create a loss of separation event to discredit the trial, such was the vehement opposition to change by domestic airline pilots.
All these years later, sadly, nothing has changed.
Tootle pip!!
Do you actually know anything about the programming of TCAS/ACAS in various modes. I do.
If you did, you would understand there is nothing inconsistent with an adequate separation determined by visual on the other aircraft and an RA.
During the same period there was what was, in my opinion, a far worse event north of Brisbane.
In my opinion, and many others, an airline aircraft changed heading to deliberately create a loss of separation event to discredit the trial, such was the vehement opposition to change by domestic airline pilots.
All these years later, sadly, nothing has changed.
Tootle pip!!
Thread Starter
How many RAs do you reckon take place each year in our existing wound back airspace that you like so much?
Doesn’t that mean we should change the airspace?
Ha ha Gotcha!
Doesn’t that mean we should change the airspace?
Ha ha Gotcha!
It’s part of the Canberra dishonest corrupt system.
I'm guessing you won't.
Ha ha Gotcha!
Thread Starter
Look left. What I did was totally open. I put the proposal into the media in a totally open way. I put my name to the proposal in a totally open way.
I have never donated a cent to either of them.
I do not need the changes. I am fortunate to be able to afford any extra cost your Canberra mates can dream up.
Others are not so fortunate.
A cannot come up with any ATSB names because I have never been able to find out who was responsible for the investigation. No one would pick up the phone and explain where they believed I was mistaken.
And I failed with Barnaby and Anthony.
And I am a 74 year old who has benefitted from the previous leaders who got this country going.
I am angry and fed up with our current group of non leaders- aren’t you?
No not 5. But I still have a sense of fun. Gotcha!
I have never donated a cent to either of them.
I do not need the changes. I am fortunate to be able to afford any extra cost your Canberra mates can dream up.
Others are not so fortunate.
A cannot come up with any ATSB names because I have never been able to find out who was responsible for the investigation. No one would pick up the phone and explain where they believed I was mistaken.
And I failed with Barnaby and Anthony.
And I am a 74 year old who has benefitted from the previous leaders who got this country going.
I am angry and fed up with our current group of non leaders- aren’t you?
No not 5. But I still have a sense of fun. Gotcha!
Last edited by Dick Smith; 14th Apr 2018 at 11:23. Reason: Forgot my birthday
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In E I’ve only ever monitored Centre and spoken up if and when I thought it would help or Centre asked whether an aircraft in my position was on frequency. I hadn’t realised we were supposed to be blabbing continuously in all circumstances.
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You can't blame Le P, Dick. Those that work for these government departments are brainwashed into thinking that they are doing the right thing. Team meetings, steering committees, continuous improvement sessions, team lunches, the list goes on of the things that give employees a warm and fuzzy feeling to make them feel valuable. It's a hard pill to swallow that think that you're contributing to something that maybe unsafe, inefficient and not for the greater good, so any wonder he's defending the system that employs him.
How many RAs do you reckon take place each year in our existing wound back airspace that you like so much?
Doesn’t that mean we should change the airspace?
Ha ha Gotcha!
Doesn’t that mean we should change the airspace?
Ha ha Gotcha!
Because there has never ever been a requirement or training for a VFR pilot using alerted see and avoid with another aircraft to remain so far apart that a RA does not take place.
CASA has not seen a requirement for that.
CASA has not seen a requirement for that.
Why didn't the Tobago pilot pipe up and say something? He thought they were going to be clear? He thought bloody well wrong. And that's why it was a whole crock.
Le Ping,
Do you actually know anything about the programming of TCAS/ACAS in various modes. I do.
If you did, you would understand there is nothing inconsistent with an adequate separation determined by visual on the other aircraft and an RA.
During the same period there was what was, in my opinion, a far worse event north of Brisbane.
In my opinion, and many others, an airline aircraft changed heading to deliberately create a loss of separation event to discredit the trial, such was the vehement opposition to change by domestic airline pilots.
All these years later, sadly, nothing has changed.
Tootle pip!!
Do you actually know anything about the programming of TCAS/ACAS in various modes. I do.
If you did, you would understand there is nothing inconsistent with an adequate separation determined by visual on the other aircraft and an RA.
During the same period there was what was, in my opinion, a far worse event north of Brisbane.
In my opinion, and many others, an airline aircraft changed heading to deliberately create a loss of separation event to discredit the trial, such was the vehement opposition to change by domestic airline pilots.
All these years later, sadly, nothing has changed.
Tootle pip!!
I'm fully aware TCAS RAs and visual separation aren't mutually exclusive. The question is why did the Tobago pilot put himself where he was by thinking a whole two degrees difference in radial was adequate and why didn't he pipe up once he heard the 737.
But there was a requirement to remain clear of IFR routes was there not? Something the Tobago pilot clearly didn't do, at least not with his brain engaged. 1 in 60 rule anyone? That is why there was a TCAS RA event.
One wonders how all of those commercial aircraft flying in and out of airports in the US deal with all the RAs. That’s why I won’t fly on any commercial airline in or out of or within the US. It’s dangerous.
