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Old 17th Apr 2018, 09:02
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Dick, it's part of our job and I'm not worried about being held responsible. It's amateur to watch two surveillance returns at the same level, perfectly opposite direction, merge without saying anything?

Nice name calling. And you wonder why people oppose you?
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 09:13
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Australia is behind in a good many things andrew, highways, mobile phone coverage, internet connections, education but thats ok because there are also a lot of things that make this country one of the best in the world to live in. I don't however buy into the argument that just because something is done one way in the States that it has to be done that way here. They have a very different culture, political system and economy to Oz. They don't have universal health care, schools free of the fear of massacre and a coastline accessible to everyone. Aviation in Australia will never be equivalent to, or ever has been equivalent to what happens in the USA. Their ATC system suits their requirements.
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 09:24
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Le ping. Yep. If you only give an intermittent response

In the Bankstown training area it must happen all the time ( VFR close together) but I have not ever once heard Sydney Radar on 124.55 call a pilot.

Sometimes the workload is very low on the frequency but still no calls. So why no calls where the risk is highest?

It’s a pathetic joke and you are protecting the incompetence.

One day it will be fixed.
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 09:26
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Australia is behind in a good many things ... but thats ok
Some people think it's OK, others would like to improve. I don't think we need to abandon Australia's health care system or gun laws to gain improvements in aviation.

But a lot of the effort in Australia seems to be just to avoid sliding backwards into more ridiculous regulations, e.g. the topic of this thread.
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 09:51
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Sigh, it's a designated training area. Same as I can do nothing about circuit traffic, plus they aren't on frequency anyway. You do what you can do. You're asking the impossible is why - it's not possible to provide meaningful traffic in a timely fashion when there is too much going on.

There you go again with the name calling. You do realise that all your abuse is doing is making the opposition more entrenched.

How is doing my job protecting anything?
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 09:57
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The issue with the regulations are separate to the issue of reogranising the airspace to make it look like the US.

One day it will be fixed
One mans ego is the driving force behind the change, which only has the support of 3 people who think that insults and ridicule will see them carry the argument.
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 10:19
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Originally Posted by Dick Smith View Post
Le ping.

In the Bankstown training area it must happen all the time ( VFR close together) but I have not ever once heard Sydney Radar on 124.55 call a pilot.
Don't know about Bankstown but I've certainly heard Melbourne Radar calling two VFR's.

I've said it before, Dick, I appreciate many things you have done for aviation but I think your attacks on the person detract from any strength your argument may have and come across as little short of bullying.

They certainly make me lose interest quickly.

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Old 17th Apr 2018, 10:24
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Originally Posted by andrewr View Post
Have you read any USA based pilot forums, or even checked out some of the flying videos people are creating? If you have you will realize how far behind we are in Australia. The people happy with the status quo in Australia are mainly:
  • RPT pilots
  • military pilots
  • ATC
  • or just pining for the good old days when they were young

It would be nice if Australian aviation was larger than that.
Hear Bloody Hear!

And youíll never convince them that Australian aviation infrastructure and operations are an international joke. Itís all Ďpunching above our weightí figjam delusion.
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 11:28
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So what's in it for RPT and military pilots? What's in it for ATC?
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 11:52
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What’s in it for them? The warm inner glow from knowing that airspace class and dimension designations have been made in accordance with their perception of risks.

But even then, there’s still the nagging doubt that there should be even more controlled airspace to provide even more safety. Class E is dangerous. We need CTAF procedures in a volume of airspace of 20nms radius up to 5,000’.

They crave a risk-free cocoon - or at least one that they perceive as risk free.

You’ve yet to tell us: Do you refuse to fly in any commercial aircraft in the USA and do you urge your family and friends to do likewise?
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 12:24
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Dick, as you have mentioned DSE, did you encourage your staff to abuse customers? I guess not as the customers would not return.

Now in a similar vein why do you persist in pouring abuse and ridicule on anyone who disagrees with you? le Pingouin, like others with whom you may disagree, is an expert in his job. He works with other experts who could have advanced your cause yet you choose to pour scorn on him.

Think how much easier your attempts at change may have been had you treated them as a resource and not done your best to put them off side. Again, despite your promise, your’re still applying your unpleasant ad hominem methods.

If DSE were still around, a manager with your behaviour would be up on harassment charges. Stick to the argument.
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 13:15
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Fuji. And Le Ping. I have difficulty in accepting that anonymous posters on this site are here for the positive interests of Australian aviation.

If they were they would contact me directly.

This is a fantastic free country and there is no need for its citizens to have to operate in secrecy on genuine air safety issues.

Give us a ring on 02 9450 0600. It’s an old phone system and your number will not appear

Then talk to me openly on how we can improve the system for most to benefit.

Then I will know if you have a genuine interest in improving the aviation scene.

And I would love to know how anyone could be in a problem for allegedly harassing an anonymous person!
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 13:21
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Originally Posted by Dick Smith View Post
From time to time I hear atc calling un identified VFR traffic in E and G. What an amateur system.
Seems like some technology is lacking here.

ATSB-out is supposed to solve this sort of rubbish and cheaper use of ATSB-in can help everyone else.

If I can program a Raspberry Pi ($40) microcomputer (size of a cigarette packet) plus USB-based receiver ($50) to decode ATSB signals, and output to whatever device I feel like via Bluetooth, I can't see why the tech can't be developed (hey, crowd-sourced!) to intelligently display, with appropriate context-sensitive buffers, anything that might affect me flying.

PS - Altimeter modules, that can be easily calibrated, and accurate to +- 0.05 kPa cost about $2. Heck, put in 10 of them.
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 15:04
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You seem to forget that behind the nom de PPRuNe is a real person with real opinions. There are other real people with real opinions reading. Some of them might actually have some influence. Also, many of us have been involve in aviation for many decades and have long memories.
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 16:51
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True. But you donít have the self belief to post at least some of your views under your real names.

Or could it be that your job would be at risk if someone knew your real views? Thatís outrageous if so.

I have noticed in recent times CASA safety cases have the names of those involved either missing or blacked out. Imagine working for such a place.

Why would you need to post anonymously in relation to airspace safety issues ? Beyond me unless there is some type of dishonest agenda.

Most have no idea who VOR is or was. Imagine that- the person or people with knowledge of airspace safety issues had to spend hours and hours researching and writing posts but were never game enough to reveal their identity.

Australians lost their lives so we could keep the right of free speech but that has been lost in relation to aviation safety speech. Outrageous!
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 23:32
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The large airline I work for and every government organisation has a social media policy. Basically if social media is used to criticize an organisation or to reflect negatively on it then you can be dismissed. A few years back there was a Jetstar pilot who appeared before a Senate Committee and criticized the airline but he was protected by parliamentary privilege. At about the same time there was a Jetstar pilot who appeared in the print media, he was dismissed but later reinstated.

Or could it be that your job would be at risk if someone knew your real views? Thatís outrageous if so.
Thats the corporate world we work in.

Why would you need to post anonymously in relation to airspace safety issues ? Beyond me unless there is some type of dishonest agenda.
Dishonest agenda from the employee or the employer?

Australians lost their lives so we could keep the right of free speech but that has been lost in relation to aviation safety speech. Outrageous!
So will you use your considerable influence in the corporate and political world to change things regarding free speech? You might like to start with Qantas.
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 23:55
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Originally Posted by Dick Smith View Post
True. But you donít have the self belief to post at least some of your views under your real names.
Including the people who agree with you Dick. They aren't posting under their real names.

Or is being anonymous only a problem if people don't agree with you?
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Old 18th Apr 2018, 03:17
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Australians lost their lives so we could keep the right of free speech but that has been lost in relation to aviation safety speech. Outrageous!
That, Dick, is disgusting.
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Old 18th Apr 2018, 04:21
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Anonymity is important in many cases.

But seems strange with airspace discussions which should be factually based.

The only way we could end up with C over D is for political reasons.

I bet you can’t get a professional with a real name supporting that!
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Old 18th Apr 2018, 04:28
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Dick you have been given the answer just admit for once in your life that you are wrong. As always you completely ignore the response to your claim that freedom of speech is a birth rite. Your corporate and political mates have effectively taken that freedom away.
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