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Old 15th Mar 2018, 17:14
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Working in Australia as pilot without being citizen

Hello, is it possible to be hired by an australian airline without being citizens?

I did look on some airlines website they ask citizenship or permanent visa. I did look on australian immigration website about jobs that can give a permanent visa but I have seen is possible only getting a temporary visa for working. Is that correct?
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My understanding (as an dual US/Australian living in the US), is that unless you are part of the British Commonwealth, it's very hard to work in Australia.
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"...unless you are part of the British Commonwealth, it's very hard to work in Australia"
Not so, although being a natural English speaker is an advantage in passing the IELTS test.

Hello, is it possible to be hired by an australian airline without being citizens?
Yes, but you must hold a valid Australian Visa that permits you to work in Australia. To obtain that in general terms you would require employer sponsorship.

"....is possible only getting a temporary visa for working. Is that correct?"
No, not correct. There are various Visas available, both temporary Visas (up to four years) and permanent residence Visas.

You need to check the Australian "Skills in Demand" to see whether your skills are being sought overseas. If your skill or trade isn't on the list, forget it!

If you are thinking of pilot employment, don't get your hopes up as you would need extensive experience, including experience and/or specialist qualifications not readily available in Australia.

We have more than enough young, qualified Australian pilots trying to find flying jobs, without employing low time overseas pilots.
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Marry a kiwi girl and get in through the back door
Hell, someone's gotta do it
How many kiwis are there in oz that will never be citizens?
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Originally Posted by troppo
Marry a kiwi girl and get in through the back door
Hell, someone's gotta do it
How many kiwis are there in oz that will never be citizens?
hahaha!

Also in North America section they suggested me to marry a girl there
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Originally Posted by tail wheel
Not so, although being a natural English speaker is an advantage in passing the IELTS test.



Yes, but you must hold a valid Australian Visa that permits you to work in Australia. To obtain that in general terms you would require employer sponsorship.



No, not correct. There are various Visas available, both temporary Visas (up to four years) and permanent residence Visas.

You need to check the Australian "Skills in Demand" to see whether your skills are being sought overseas. If your skill or trade isn't on the list, forget it!

If you are thinking of pilot employment, don't get your hopes up as you would need extensive experience, including experience and/or specialist qualifications not readily available in Australia.

We have more than enough young, qualified Australian pilots trying to find flying jobs, without employing low time overseas pilots.

Thanks for your kind reply.

I made a Google research about pilot job visa. I've seen that last year was possible to get the permanent visa now only years temporary visa.


https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/...foreign-pilots


I'm asking this because I'm thinking to go in Australia for the pilot license, and would like to know if I can work there after the degree.
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Not getting the answers you want in the USA thread?
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Originally Posted by troppo
Marry a kiwi girl and get in through the back door
Hell, someone's gotta do it
How many kiwis are there in oz that will never be citizens?


That would depend on how long the Kiwi girls has lived in Australia and when they arrived to be eligible to sponsor anyone for an Australian Partner visa. It will also $7,000 in application fee. But the hardest would be proving the relationship is genuine and ongoing, so in around 3 years you might get a decision on your application and come to Australia and work.


I would just wait for changes to the 482 visa (the new 457).
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"How many kiwis are there in oz that will never be citizens?"

I'm one of them! Been here for 40 odd years and never saw the point of doing it. (except when trying to get in the RAAF, was accepted and all good until the eye quack didn't like my eyes.. )
The only things I couldn't do as a Kiwi citizen was a) Be an MP (hello Barnaby haha!!) b) Be in the Military, c) Be a Policeman.
I'm on the electoral roll (Thanks a lot Mum, not), up until 1986 NZer's could enrol.
Some years ago I tried to "unenrol" for a few reasons; I was sick of having to dodge fines for not voting in Federal, State or local elections because I was overseas a lot. I didn't think it right I should have a say as a foreigner anyway. Then I was called up for jury service and I didn't think it right I should a say in someones fate, being a non citizen.
To get off the electoral roll I had to send a form to the Electoral Office saying I had moved to the UK. They wouldn't accept the form over the counter in Melbourne. I had to send the form back to the same lady I was talking to, from the UK! Ludicrous! I did that and got off. But 9 months later after I renewed my car registration in Melbourne the Electoral Office got wind of it and put me back on the electoral roll! (Big brother is watching....)
So, again I must engage in the voting process again, as a non citizen. Crazy....
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