Over 70 CASA Class One Medical
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Hi All,
After being retired for five years and just passed 70 years on the planet, I feel the urge to get amongst the clouds again and have been offered a flight training opportunity requiring a CASA Class One Medical, but is it worth it? Can anyone provide a brief on how much doing a CASA medical is likely to cost and how much angst may it bring? I'm guessing at least a stress ecg, blood test, audiogram, ophthalmologist, plus anything else and CASA service fee.
Do I really need to do this? The sunset bar is pretty comfortable but it's always nice to have a reason to get up in the morning.
After being retired for five years and just passed 70 years on the planet, I feel the urge to get amongst the clouds again and have been offered a flight training opportunity requiring a CASA Class One Medical, but is it worth it? Can anyone provide a brief on how much doing a CASA medical is likely to cost and how much angst may it bring? I'm guessing at least a stress ecg, blood test, audiogram, ophthalmologist, plus anything else and CASA service fee.
Do I really need to do this? The sunset bar is pretty comfortable but it's always nice to have a reason to get up in the morning.
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Hi All,
After being retired for five years and just passed 70 years on the planet, I feel the urge to get amongst the clouds again and have been offered a flight training opportunity requiring a CASA Class One Medical, but is it worth it? Can anyone provide a brief on how much doing a CASA medical is likely to cost and how much angst may it bring? I'm guessing at least a stress ecg, blood test, audiogram, ophthalmologist, plus anything else and CASA service fee.
Do I really need to do this? The sunset bar is pretty comfortable but it's always nice to have a reason to get up in the morning.
After being retired for five years and just passed 70 years on the planet, I feel the urge to get amongst the clouds again and have been offered a flight training opportunity requiring a CASA Class One Medical, but is it worth it? Can anyone provide a brief on how much doing a CASA medical is likely to cost and how much angst may it bring? I'm guessing at least a stress ecg, blood test, audiogram, ophthalmologist, plus anything else and CASA service fee.
Do I really need to do this? The sunset bar is pretty comfortable but it's always nice to have a reason to get up in the morning.
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Unless you're pressed for $$ it'll probably cost around/up to $1,000.
Angst - never never know until you have a go,
Alternatively leave another $1,000 to your bereaving loved ones in 15/20 years.
Just don't lie on your deathbed thinking "...my one regret...!"
As suggested talking to a friendly DAME a great start.
Good luck.
Angst - never never know until you have a go,
Alternatively leave another $1,000 to your bereaving loved ones in 15/20 years.
Just don't lie on your deathbed thinking "...my one regret...!"
As suggested talking to a friendly DAME a great start.
Good luck.
Have you seen https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-page/changes-medical-certification
“Pilots flying commercial operations with no passengers – such as flying training and aerial agriculture – will also be able to obtain an unrestricted Class 2 medical certificate.
The changes will be introduced throughout 2018 with details available as soon as possible.
Last modified: 12 December 2017”
Can you wait until then?
“as soon as possible” is coming up to 2 months
“Pilots flying commercial operations with no passengers – such as flying training and aerial agriculture – will also be able to obtain an unrestricted Class 2 medical certificate.
The changes will be introduced throughout 2018 with details available as soon as possible.
Last modified: 12 December 2017”
Can you wait until then?
“as soon as possible” is coming up to 2 months
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I have fond memories of the older aged instructors who I flew with.
Flight training is plagued with a lack of real world experience
that you can provide.
Go do that renewal, it's just a renewal.
It's not going to cost any more unless
you have other medical issues that would require more tests.
Ramjet
Flight training is plagued with a lack of real world experience
that you can provide.
Go do that renewal, it's just a renewal.
It's not going to cost any more unless
you have other medical issues that would require more tests.
Ramjet
Hi All,
After being retired for five years and just passed 70 years on the planet, I feel the urge to get amongst the clouds again and have been offered a flight training opportunity requiring a CASA Class One Medical, but is it worth it? Can anyone provide a brief on how much doing a CASA medical is likely to cost and how much angst may it bring? I'm guessing at least a stress ecg, blood test, audiogram, ophthalmologist, plus anything else and CASA service fee.
Do I really need to do this? The sunset bar is pretty comfortable but it's always nice to have a reason to get up in the morning.
After being retired for five years and just passed 70 years on the planet, I feel the urge to get amongst the clouds again and have been offered a flight training opportunity requiring a CASA Class One Medical, but is it worth it? Can anyone provide a brief on how much doing a CASA medical is likely to cost and how much angst may it bring? I'm guessing at least a stress ecg, blood test, audiogram, ophthalmologist, plus anything else and CASA service fee.
Do I really need to do this? The sunset bar is pretty comfortable but it's always nice to have a reason to get up in the morning.
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Thanks guys, for the good advice and encouragement. I have been across CASA's announcement about reducing the medical requirement to class two for instructors in 2018, but anticipate it will not happen until 31 December. As soon as I finish writing this posting, I'll start filling in the CASA website medical form. It might take a while! The main reason for quitting at 65 was the medicals and cost, oh yes, and then was also the DG's, EP's, Sim Checks, Route Checks, Human Factors, and a New ASIC card! Don't think instructors need all that stuff.
Cheers,
Cheers,
You'll still need an ASIC. The rules have changed, however....
Now you need to produce a full family history going back to at least the mid-1700's in triplicate with all the original documentation. This will have to be shown in person to an ASIC hander-outerer, of whom there is only one in Australia, and he's located somewhere in the Antarctic, but CASA won't give you the co-ordinates, because it's secret don't you know...
Now you need to produce a full family history going back to at least the mid-1700's in triplicate with all the original documentation. This will have to be shown in person to an ASIC hander-outerer, of whom there is only one in Australia, and he's located somewhere in the Antarctic, but CASA won't give you the co-ordinates, because it's secret don't you know...
Gday Crackup
I've just completed my Class 1 renewal at age 77. I'm a Grade 1 instructor on an RPT airport.
Yes, you'll need an ASIC every 2 years.
I have had the usual blood pathology tests - local
Exercise ECG - local,
+ Holter Monitor for 24 hrs,
then visit cardiologist in Perth (420kms away)
Audiology - speech discrimination test - locally
Opthalmology - visit CASA approved one in Perth, (same trip as cardiologist)
DAME visit to collate all the above + other tests,checks - local
Flight Test with ATO - probably $600 + travel $200
All the above = about 5 days of time + travel of 1000kms + about $1500 pa
You really do need to be both persistent and determined to maintain your medical over a certain age. However, I'm flying about 300 hrs pa and the instructing here, (over the scenic south coast), makes it all worthwhile.
happy days,
I've just completed my Class 1 renewal at age 77. I'm a Grade 1 instructor on an RPT airport.
Yes, you'll need an ASIC every 2 years.
I have had the usual blood pathology tests - local
Exercise ECG - local,
+ Holter Monitor for 24 hrs,
then visit cardiologist in Perth (420kms away)
Audiology - speech discrimination test - locally
Opthalmology - visit CASA approved one in Perth, (same trip as cardiologist)
DAME visit to collate all the above + other tests,checks - local
Flight Test with ATO - probably $600 + travel $200
All the above = about 5 days of time + travel of 1000kms + about $1500 pa
You really do need to be both persistent and determined to maintain your medical over a certain age. However, I'm flying about 300 hrs pa and the instructing here, (over the scenic south coast), makes it all worthwhile.
happy days,
Yes. Try to find a DAME who’s been in ‘the system’ for over a decade and understands and is prepared to assist you through the new MRS.
Sadly, many good DAMEs have been driven out of the system by the frustration of dealing with CASA and ‘experts’ who presume to override the clinical judgment of treating practitioners. (The submissions to the review of the medical certification system are very instructive (and disturbing) in this regard.) That’s why CASA recently commenced a campaign to attract medical practitioners to the exciting world of aviation medicine. CASA needs to find doctors prepared to use the MRS and be dictated to on their professional judgment. The safety of air navigation demands it.
A DAME who’s been in the system for over a decade may at least be able to assist you to navigate around the unnecessary bullsh*t.
Sadly, many good DAMEs have been driven out of the system by the frustration of dealing with CASA and ‘experts’ who presume to override the clinical judgment of treating practitioners. (The submissions to the review of the medical certification system are very instructive (and disturbing) in this regard.) That’s why CASA recently commenced a campaign to attract medical practitioners to the exciting world of aviation medicine. CASA needs to find doctors prepared to use the MRS and be dictated to on their professional judgment. The safety of air navigation demands it.
A DAME who’s been in the system for over a decade may at least be able to assist you to navigate around the unnecessary bullsh*t.
Wow that’s expensive for a Medical in AUS. Here in UK a 76 year old mate, Class 1 medical less than £300 a year. No heart monitors etc. If just for private flying under 2000kgs. AUW, a self declaration to CAA, if your GP deems you’re fit to drive you’re fit to fly. Only valid for flying in UK Airspace.
But Australian aviation is so much “safer” than UK aviation.
After each annual medical my wallet has been significantly lightened. This has the effect of lowering my Vs, thus causing me to execute each arrival with improved safety. Therefore, one must conclude that the more complex, onerous and expensive is ones' medical renewal - the safety bonus is worth it! 
happy days,
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At what age does CASA require
a "blood pathology test"?
an "exercise" ECG rather than a regular ECG?
A "Holter monitor for 24 hours" ?
Opthalmology?
Are these tests triggered by a condition or age or both?
Ramjet
a "blood pathology test"?
an "exercise" ECG rather than a regular ECG?
A "Holter monitor for 24 hours" ?
Opthalmology?
Are these tests triggered by a condition or age or both?
Ramjet
Gday Crackup
I've just completed my Class 1 renewal at age 77. I'm a Grade 1 instructor on an RPT airport.
Yes, you'll need an ASIC every 2 years.
I have had the usual blood pathology tests - local
Exercise ECG - local,
+ Holter Monitor for 24 hrs,
then visit cardiologist in Perth (420kms away)
Audiology - speech discrimination test - locally
Opthalmology - visit CASA approved one in Perth, (same trip as cardiologist)
DAME visit to collate all the above + other tests,checks - local
Flight Test with ATO - probably $600 + travel $200
All the above = about 5 days of time + travel of 1000kms + about $1500 pa
You really do need to be both persistent and determined to maintain your medical over a certain age. However, I'm flying about 300 hrs pa and the instructing here, (over the scenic south coast), makes it all worthwhile.
happy days,
I've just completed my Class 1 renewal at age 77. I'm a Grade 1 instructor on an RPT airport.
Yes, you'll need an ASIC every 2 years.
I have had the usual blood pathology tests - local
Exercise ECG - local,
+ Holter Monitor for 24 hrs,
then visit cardiologist in Perth (420kms away)
Audiology - speech discrimination test - locally
Opthalmology - visit CASA approved one in Perth, (same trip as cardiologist)
DAME visit to collate all the above + other tests,checks - local
Flight Test with ATO - probably $600 + travel $200
All the above = about 5 days of time + travel of 1000kms + about $1500 pa
You really do need to be both persistent and determined to maintain your medical over a certain age. However, I'm flying about 300 hrs pa and the instructing here, (over the scenic south coast), makes it all worthwhile.
happy days,
Be very careful filling the CASA medical online questionnaire out, make sure everything is exactly correct. Once you click submit, there is no going back into edit it if you have made an error. Happened to me last medical, rang AVMED and the only way I could fix the error was having the doctor do it for me. In my case the error was only minor in nature related to my employment details, although making a mistake answering a medical question could be very painful and costly I recon.
Good luck with it Crackup, hope it all goes well. We need more young blokes with real experience teaching.
Good luck with it Crackup, hope it all goes well. We need more young blokes with real experience teaching.
And remember: Wrong answer = potential criminal liability.