What Has Jeff Boyd Achieved??
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What Has Jeff Boyd Achieved??
What Has Jeff Boyd Achieved as Chairman of the CASA Board??
This is a genuine question, asked sincerely, what had Jeff done, what has he achieved, in the interests of the aviation community in general, or specifically, in the whole time he has been Chairman.
There was much hope invested at the time, he and several fellow Board members had/have substantial aviation backgrounds, but, as far as I can see, things have got steadily worse. The "Iron Ring" has reigned supreme.
It has been said to me that "Do Nothing Darren", Gippsland's answer to George Clooney and un-lamented late Minister, did do "something", he bypassed the Board and dealt direct with the CASA CEO of the day.
Tootle pip!!
PS: I have just recently been on Lismore, and Grafton aerodromes, they all had one thing in common at the time I was there, not a GA aeroplane in sight. Very sad.
All of the ASRR recommendations have been actioned! At least, that’s what the press release said...
1/. According to Facebook, he got to play golf with Joel Fitzgibbon last week.
2/. While drawing a cheque from CASA, he has also been working as business development manager for FlyCorporate's RPT operation. When his contract is not renewed next year (as I am told it will not be), $20 says he turns up at Corporate Air.
I am certain that all his decisions as CASA Chairman have been entirely free from self interest or coercion. I am not for a minute suggesting any impropriety, please understand.
Alternately, he will sit back in the Parts business for C404s, Conquests and Metros that he owns with Roger Yang. Let me think... is there a charter operator in Australia that only operates C404s, Conquests and Metros?
2/. While drawing a cheque from CASA, he has also been working as business development manager for FlyCorporate's RPT operation. When his contract is not renewed next year (as I am told it will not be), $20 says he turns up at Corporate Air.
I am certain that all his decisions as CASA Chairman have been entirely free from self interest or coercion. I am not for a minute suggesting any impropriety, please understand.
Alternately, he will sit back in the Parts business for C404s, Conquests and Metros that he owns with Roger Yang. Let me think... is there a charter operator in Australia that only operates C404s, Conquests and Metros?
All of the ASRR recommendations have been actioned! At least, that’s what the press release said...
The Civil Aviation Safety Authority has now considered and addressed all of the recommendations made to it in the Aviation Safety Regulation Review of 2014.
You are of course correct, SIUYA. The CASA “action” is to produce spin.
In fairness to Jeff, there’s not much the Chairman of CASA can do. All you need to do is spend 5 minutes reading the Civil Aviation Act to work that out.
The Chair can call meetings of the Board and, if the Chair is presiding at a meeting, has a deliberative vote and, if necessary, a casting vote. If anyone reckons that’s a position with power single-handedly to change the world of aviation regulation, I have some shares in the Harbour Bridge on sale.
Even if the Board voted unanimously in favour of any and every motion Jeff put forward, the Board doesn’t have power to change the Civil Aviation legislation.
In fairness to Jeff, there’s not much the Chairman of CASA can do. All you need to do is spend 5 minutes reading the Civil Aviation Act to work that out.
The Chair can call meetings of the Board and, if the Chair is presiding at a meeting, has a deliberative vote and, if necessary, a casting vote. If anyone reckons that’s a position with power single-handedly to change the world of aviation regulation, I have some shares in the Harbour Bridge on sale.
Even if the Board voted unanimously in favour of any and every motion Jeff put forward, the Board doesn’t have power to change the Civil Aviation legislation.
Lead Balloon...
CORRECT. Look at:
https://infrastructure.gov.au/aviati...ugust_2016.pdf
If you look carefully at the status of the responses, most of them make no firm commitment to actually implement ANY meaningful action whatsoever.
So, yes, you are correct about 'spin'.
The CASA “action” is to produce spin.
https://infrastructure.gov.au/aviati...ugust_2016.pdf
If you look carefully at the status of the responses, most of them make no firm commitment to actually implement ANY meaningful action whatsoever.
So, yes, you are correct about 'spin'.
I was invited by Jeff to attend a board meeting on the 15 TH October 2015
I asked Mr Skidmore if he would be acting on any of the 17 points I had given him at a meeting with Jeff Boyd some 12 months previously. All of which were directed at reducing costs. I received no direct answer from anyone at the meeting.
All very mysterious. The board does have ultimate control and if getting knowwhere has a duty to stop taking industry money and to resign.
No one is more “ industry” than Jeff Boyd. I hope he comes on this thread and explains why he has let the industry down so badly . Very possibly there is something we don’t know!
And no. Not one of the cost savings have been introduced. Just the opposite. Industry costs have increased in the last three years .
I asked Mr Skidmore if he would be acting on any of the 17 points I had given him at a meeting with Jeff Boyd some 12 months previously. All of which were directed at reducing costs. I received no direct answer from anyone at the meeting.
All very mysterious. The board does have ultimate control and if getting knowwhere has a duty to stop taking industry money and to resign.
No one is more “ industry” than Jeff Boyd. I hope he comes on this thread and explains why he has let the industry down so badly . Very possibly there is something we don’t know!
And no. Not one of the cost savings have been introduced. Just the opposite. Industry costs have increased in the last three years .
Dick well said. I meet with Mr Skidmore after waiting four months for an appointment. Cups of tea and another minion in the meeting. Nodding of heads tacitly agreeing with what I had to say...
Hand shaking and "we will be in touch!"...
....nothing after that inspite of repeated emails and a couple of messages with his secretary! I guess that says it all..
Hand shaking and "we will be in touch!"...
....nothing after that inspite of repeated emails and a couple of messages with his secretary! I guess that says it all..
The board does have ultimate control
Remember: There was a period during which CASA had no board. It was no less worse during that period compared with periods in which it had a board.
So Dick: You and Barnaby been having any discussions about your future plans?
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I once had enormous respect for Jeff.
Unfortunately he has squandered the opportunity this position presented with the ear of the minister and his background across GA and regionals.
A strong advocate for GA and regional aviation is not inconsistent with being Chair of CASA. Particularly someone who is intimate with both the regs and commercial reality of the industry.
Not to mention the conflict between his role as CASA Chair and his work representing the commercial interests of Flycorporate. It is sad to see him burn so much of his hard earned credibility over what is probably negligible self interest.
Unfortunately he has squandered the opportunity this position presented with the ear of the minister and his background across GA and regionals.
A strong advocate for GA and regional aviation is not inconsistent with being Chair of CASA. Particularly someone who is intimate with both the regs and commercial reality of the industry.
Not to mention the conflict between his role as CASA Chair and his work representing the commercial interests of Flycorporate. It is sad to see him burn so much of his hard earned credibility over what is probably negligible self interest.
For the Bored to drive any adopted policy into CAsA is like attempting to hammer a tack into a tank turret...does NOT penetrate !
As was the COOP/ new FAR based Classification of Operations Policy, adopted by the Minister (Sharp) and the Board in April 1997. Vanished 2 decades lost.
Written contact with the Board, regarding serious malfeasance by CAsA employees, yielded not a squeak from anyone.
Thus their problem is solved...just don't respond, pretend the problem does not exist.
I hope you have all sent your letters off to Barnaby.. the new great white hope
(maybe) advising him of required re-structuring of CAsA to give some relief to a dying industry.
That CAsA should be devolved of its (free reign soviet) statutory authority and pulled back into the Transport Dept. where (possibly) some control over the rotten place can be instituted, with maybe Ministerial direction with bite... is but one of a few.
Another one is that CAsA must be got out of the Policeman/Investigation business, as they have proved time and again they are hopeless at it ... much to the detriment of their victims.... and at great cost to the taxpayer.
Proper investigations and prosecutions must lie with an independent body,(Av div /AFP?) and not corrupted by CAsA laundering their dirty washing.
Its a bloody great ask for B Joyce MP/ Deputy Prime Minister but if he cant make any progress from his position what are we left with.?
Civil disobedience en masse, Anarchy ?
Their call.
As was the COOP/ new FAR based Classification of Operations Policy, adopted by the Minister (Sharp) and the Board in April 1997. Vanished 2 decades lost.
Written contact with the Board, regarding serious malfeasance by CAsA employees, yielded not a squeak from anyone.
Thus their problem is solved...just don't respond, pretend the problem does not exist.
I hope you have all sent your letters off to Barnaby.. the new great white hope
(maybe) advising him of required re-structuring of CAsA to give some relief to a dying industry.
That CAsA should be devolved of its (free reign soviet) statutory authority and pulled back into the Transport Dept. where (possibly) some control over the rotten place can be instituted, with maybe Ministerial direction with bite... is but one of a few.
Another one is that CAsA must be got out of the Policeman/Investigation business, as they have proved time and again they are hopeless at it ... much to the detriment of their victims.... and at great cost to the taxpayer.
Proper investigations and prosecutions must lie with an independent body,(Av div /AFP?) and not corrupted by CAsA laundering their dirty washing.
Its a bloody great ask for B Joyce MP/ Deputy Prime Minister but if he cant make any progress from his position what are we left with.?
Civil disobedience en masse, Anarchy ?
Their call.
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Leadsled, the first cut and I suspect final answer to you question is NOTHING. As for some of the Board members affirmative action is a wonderful thing. You get clueless incompetents who get $80,000 a year.
aroa, that is the most sensible post I've seen from anyone in a long time.
of course CASA needs to be inside the Dept subject to Ministerial direction. If it doesn't happen, get carpeted and given 15 minutes to clear out your desk.
Yes the aviation branch of the AFP should be in the evidence gathering and recommendation for prosecution or not, business.
aroa, that is the most sensible post I've seen from anyone in a long time.
of course CASA needs to be inside the Dept subject to Ministerial direction. If it doesn't happen, get carpeted and given 15 minutes to clear out your desk.
Yes the aviation branch of the AFP should be in the evidence gathering and recommendation for prosecution or not, business.
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The Board is a Fig Leaf, nothing more. It can be safely ignored, in fact why anyone would want to serve on a powerless Board is beyond my imagination. CASA, as a Government owned corporation, needs "a Board" to comply with the incorporation rules.
In a normal corporation, the Board firstly protects the corporations assets, is responsible for corporate governance, chooses and appoints senior management and ensures they are working to a coherent corporate strategy for the benefit of the shareholders.
CASA is not a "normal" corporation. It exists to insulate Government from the consequences of its own (in)actions and policy through a process called diffusion of responsibility ("the Board did this, I'm just the Minister"). The reality is that the Government exercises day to day control of what happens at CASA but can blame the Board if anything goes wrong.
In a normal corporation, the Board firstly protects the corporations assets, is responsible for corporate governance, chooses and appoints senior management and ensures they are working to a coherent corporate strategy for the benefit of the shareholders.
CASA is not a "normal" corporation. It exists to insulate Government from the consequences of its own (in)actions and policy through a process called diffusion of responsibility ("the Board did this, I'm just the Minister"). The reality is that the Government exercises day to day control of what happens at CASA but can blame the Board if anything goes wrong.
CASA, as a Government owned corporation, needs "a Board" to comply with the incorporation rules.
CASA does not need a board to comply with any rules, incorporation or otherwise.
CASA is a statutory body corporate established by the Civil Aviation Act. CASA exists as body corporate because an Act says so.
Whether CASA ‘needs’ a board depends on whether the Civil Aviation Act says CASA has a board. The Civil Aviation Act currently says CASA has a board. As I noted above, there was a period during which the Civil Aviation Act did not say CASA has a board. As I also noted above, the period during which CASA had no board was no better or worse for aviation regulation than the periods during which CASA has had a board.