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The price to pay for unstable approach to a wet runway.

Old 18th Sep 2017, 04:27
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The price to pay for unstable approach to a wet runway.

B737-200 Piedmont Airlines; Charlotte, NC. Landed on runway 36R after an ILS approach. About 24 seconds after touchdown, the aircraft overran the runway, struck a localiser antennae array, a concrete culvert, continued through a chain link fence, and came to rest upon the edge of rail road tracks 440 ft past the runway end. Probable cause: The Captain' failure to stabilise the approach to a landing and his failure to discontinue the approach to a landing that was conducted at an excessive speed beyond the normal touchdown point on a wet runway.

Contributing to the accident was the captain's failure to optimally use the airplane deceleration devices. Also contributing to the accident was the lack of effective coordination during the approach.
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https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/...ts/AAR8708.pdf
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 05:21
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As an industry we've certainly improved dramatically since then. That accident happened 31 years ago with a culture and technology level that most current operators wouldn't even recognise.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 10:41
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As an industry we've certainly improved dramatically since then. That accident happened 31 years ago with a culture and technology level that most current operators wouldn't even recognise.
No we haven't! Runway excursion/incursion is still one of the major causes of aircraft accidents. Lion Air Bali, Garuda Jogjakarta, American Airlines Caribbean, Air France Toronto, Qantas Bangkok, Turkish Airlines Kathmandu and thats just off the top of my head.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 02:16
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No we haven't! Runway excursion/incursion is still one of the major causes of aircraft accidents. Lion Air Bali, Garuda Jogjakarta, American Airlines Caribbean, Air France Toronto, Qantas Bangkok, Turkish Airlines Kathmandu and thats just off the top of my head.
And that's not counting the accidents and incidents that happen in China that are never published as a matter of policy. Especially when you look at the number of airlines in China. For example Air China with 390 aircraft of which 122 Boeing 737's, China Southern 541 aircraft of which 177 are 737's, China Eastern 684 aircraft (172 A320 and 122 Boeing 737's). There are bound to be a few hundred prangs to learn from among that lot over the past decade and earlier and yet we will never hear about them
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 03:05
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Originally Posted by Propjet88 View Post
[B]Controlled Flight Into Train?
At least that makes for an outstandingly short journey from arrival to rail connections.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 08:40
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Centaurus,
You sir, deserve a medal for being the resident air safety oracle. Education and learning is fundamental and I always enjoy your posts and long may the readers store what you post in their memory bank.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 00:01
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A bit spicy -

SpiceJet flight overshoots runway at Mumbai airport due to rains, gets stuck in mud

Yes they keep happening... As someone said AA, Lion, etc there is not a month goes by in Asia that there is not a little runway excursion.

Ps Centy ok maybe a bit bichy my other comment but everybody likes a glossy new idea story ��, thanks CS!

Pps How about the 1-2-Go Phuket around 10 years ago...
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