Gympie... More Talkies Please!
Unless CASA issues a formal direction for CAR166 E to apply or declares a Broadcast Area the Council has absolutely no authority to mandate radio carriage. They have no authority over the operation of airborne aircraft.
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If "near" is a contraction of the word "nearly" then the correct term is a "near hit" as in "the aircraft nearly hit the other aircraft". If it is a description of proximity then "a near miss" would indicate that "the aircraft was in close proximity when it missed the other aircraft", as opposed to a "far miss", i.e. "it missed us by miles". Or you could just reduce it to a simple binary logic of "it missed" or "it hit" :-)
If "near" is a contraction of the word "nearly" then the correct term is a "near hit" as in "the aircraft nearly hit the other aircraft". If it is a description of proximity then "a near miss" would indicate that "the aircraft was in close proximity when it missed the other aircraft", as opposed to a "far miss", i.e. "it missed us by miles". Or you could just reduce it to a simple binary logic of "it missed" or "it hit" :-)
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Having seen the likely events up there in the past, I will take a punt that it is all about half the runway being on a slop and the top half blind from the taxiway. Combine that with many sloppy radio operators and you get folk taxiing into aircraft cresting the hill either taking off or landing.
The airfield is a great little place but it is far more unforgiving of fools than most others. It makes the blind ends like Bathurst and Toowoomba loo like non events.
As for helicopters at night being a pain in the butt, is there anywhere that Beckers have not worn out their welcome?
The airfield is a great little place but it is far more unforgiving of fools than most others. It makes the blind ends like Bathurst and Toowoomba loo like non events.
As for helicopters at night being a pain in the butt, is there anywhere that Beckers have not worn out their welcome?
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Based on the press report and the council meeting agenda item the whole matter does not make sense. It appears ill conceived, ill advised (that's CAsA) which ultimately suggests its implementation (if it even gets that far) will be just be a big a cockup. Something councils have demonstrated they are excellent at in the past.
The safety case (if one was ever done) would make an interesting read.
I suspect the anti-noise nimby's have put the wind up council who then have come up with their questionable 'safety enhancements'.
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I totally agree.
Based on the press report and the council meeting agenda item the whole matter does not make sense. It appears ill conceived, ill advised (that's CAsA) which ultimately suggests its implementation (if it even gets that far) will be just be a big a cockup. Something councils have demonstrated they are excellent at in the past.
The safety case (if one was ever done) would make an interesting read.
I suspect the anti-noise nimby's have put the wind up council who then have come up with their questionable 'safety enhancements'.CC
Based on the press report and the council meeting agenda item the whole matter does not make sense. It appears ill conceived, ill advised (that's CAsA) which ultimately suggests its implementation (if it even gets that far) will be just be a big a cockup. Something councils have demonstrated they are excellent at in the past.
The safety case (if one was ever done) would make an interesting read.
I suspect the anti-noise nimby's have put the wind up council who then have come up with their questionable 'safety enhancements'.CC
I'm planning on visiting the Gympie Airport open day this coming Sunday, it might be an opportunity to 'engage' some councillors in a discussion.
It does appear from the Gympie Times link above that the noise nimby's and possibly somebody looking at a future land use zoning change just might have influenced this odd apparent outcome.
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It does appear from the Gympie Times link above that the noise nimby's and possibly somebody looking at a future land use zoning change just might have influenced this odd apparent outcome.
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If the Council have communicated with CASA, then the silo's within CASA still exist, as there was a SQld RAPAC meeting a week ago and the matter was not on the agenda nor raised by anyone presnet including CASA. The CASA RAPAC rep is now looking into it I understand. As was indicated previously, the aerodrome operator (Council in this case) have no authority on the airspace and operations at the the aerodrome unless CASA approval is provided and it is listed in ERSA. Any changes as outlined would have to be justified with incident reports and some form of safety case.
Via The Gympie Times:
The owner of a helicopter training school has criticised the new safety changes at Kybong Airport, saying it is now impossible for helicopters to use the site.
Becker Helicopters owner Captain Mike Becker said the ban on hovering was the same as stopping planes from taxiing.
"It's impossible for a helicopter, if it's going to land there, not to hover," he said.
"If it's upsetting residents who aren't at the airport because they were worried about helicopters flying over the top of them, that's got nothing to do with hovering does it?"
Having invested about $800,000 in purchasing 4ha at the site with the intention of moving some of his business there, the changes - which Capt Becker said his company was not consulted on - had left him wondering what to do now.
He said requests for an urgent meeting with the council had been turned down.
He also questioned the decision to allow residential development at the airport.
"You can't build a house in an industrial area," he said.
According to Capt Becker, the council had been made aware of incidents during a meeting in April 2016, and that the Australian Transport Safety Bureau recorded only seven incidents at the airport.
A Gympie Regional Council spokeswoman said the council was encouraging feedback from all members of the community through the airport draft master plan next week.
https://www.gympietimes.com.au/news/...sible/3208561/
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The owner of a helicopter training school has criticised the new safety changes at Kybong Airport, saying it is now impossible for helicopters to use the site.
Becker Helicopters owner Captain Mike Becker said the ban on hovering was the same as stopping planes from taxiing.
"It's impossible for a helicopter, if it's going to land there, not to hover," he said.
"If it's upsetting residents who aren't at the airport because they were worried about helicopters flying over the top of them, that's got nothing to do with hovering does it?"
Having invested about $800,000 in purchasing 4ha at the site with the intention of moving some of his business there, the changes - which Capt Becker said his company was not consulted on - had left him wondering what to do now.
He said requests for an urgent meeting with the council had been turned down.
He also questioned the decision to allow residential development at the airport.
"You can't build a house in an industrial area," he said.
According to Capt Becker, the council had been made aware of incidents during a meeting in April 2016, and that the Australian Transport Safety Bureau recorded only seven incidents at the airport.
A Gympie Regional Council spokeswoman said the council was encouraging feedback from all members of the community through the airport draft master plan next week.
https://www.gympietimes.com.au/news/...sible/3208561/
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There's a balance to the above bleat from Beckers - I think it would be fair to say that Becker Helicopters are generally unpopular with the populace of the entire Sunshine Coast hinterland, not just those of Gympie.
A justifiable 'bleat' i woulda thought.
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Do the council have any in house aviation expertise or have they engaged a consultant to provide appropriate advice?
Seem not to date.
They have no power to 'control' anything above the ground, which many councils seem to think they have.
Seem not to date.
They have no power to 'control' anything above the ground, which many councils seem to think they have.