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I watched this happen at the Hunter Airshow at maitland last year. He was coming in doing what these STOL blokes do, on the backside of the curve with power with very little margin above the stall, trying to land as short as possible.
It was a fairly windy day with some gusts around. I am no accident investigator so this is only speculation, but it seemed to me not enough margin above the stall, hit a gust, wing dropped and down she came. Regardless of the cause of the stall, a stall it was. Unforgiving with power on at that altitude.
It was a fairly "soft" crash and a pretty good advertisement for the aircraft I think. Those big shock absorber struts certainly absorbed the impact well. The speed he was flying certainly helped with minimum energy to dissapte. Bugger all forward velocity.
As an aside, this aircraft will crap all over a Supercub in a STOL contest (this landing example notwithstanding!). Great little aircraft. It is back flying again.
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It was a fairly windy day with some gusts around. I am no accident investigator so this is only speculation, but it seemed to me not enough margin above the stall, hit a gust, wing dropped and down she came. Regardless of the cause of the stall, a stall it was. Unforgiving with power on at that altitude.
It was a fairly "soft" crash and a pretty good advertisement for the aircraft I think. Those big shock absorber struts certainly absorbed the impact well. The speed he was flying certainly helped with minimum energy to dissapte. Bugger all forward velocity.
As an aside, this aircraft will crap all over a Supercub in a STOL contest (this landing example notwithstanding!). Great little aircraft. It is back flying again.
Cheers
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Sorry, couldn't find the "canned laughter" audio file, nor the "tongue in cheek" emoticon - I'll be more careful next time....
...As an aside, this aircraft will crap all over a Supercub in a STOL contest...
Trails rider told me he could climb three metre vertical walls with his bike. I said my 1000RR can do two hundred miles an hour.....
Mission profile - 200 miles out, land on a tight field, load up, fly back, all on the one tank full...
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But are you comparing apples to apples.
Trails rider told me he could climb three metre vertical walls with his bike. I said my 1000RR can do two hundred miles an hour.....
Mission profile - 200 miles out, land on a tight field, load up, fly back, all on the one tank full...
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Trails rider told me he could climb three metre vertical walls with his bike. I said my 1000RR can do two hundred miles an hour.....
Mission profile - 200 miles out, land on a tight field, load up, fly back, all on the one tank full...
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Use whatever apples you like. It was posted that if you want to land short use a Supercub. This lands well shorter and takes off shorter. That is all I was saying.
Cheers
CB
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Was taught 1.3 Vs by Mike Valentine
A good Man! It was somewhat distressing to hear of his passing, now quite a few years ago.
FB,
Use whatever apples you like. It was posted that if you want to land short use a Supercub. This lands well shorter and takes off shorter. That is all I was saying.
Cheers
Use whatever apples you like. It was posted that if you want to land short use a Supercub. This lands well shorter and takes off shorter. That is all I was saying.
Cheers
CB It does not appear to have the same good manners that a Supercub has.
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Andy RR, a Supercub may not fly at quite that speed and AoA but if properly rigged and with one POB it would not drop a wing and dive into the ground. It would reach a very high rate of sink but would recover from a semi stalled situation with a bit of power. Hence my comment previously on airframe rigging. It is pretty standard in the bush in a Supercub to get into a short strip over the trees to hold the stick back until airframe buffet and recover the resulting high sink rate with a large application of power then close throttle and land. Does take a bit of practice first.
I haven't dome much in a Cub so I'll keep my comments to the Husky which was based on the Cub so some similarities. Book landing approach speed is 70 mph which the POH notes is 1.3Vs. Book Vs is 53 mph with full flap.
70 mph is too hard to achieve, 65 or so is much easier - that's 1.2Vs.
Today we were doing steep approaches in a 30 deg banked turn/sideslip between 60 and 65 (my student needs to work on being more precise), crossing the fence at 55.
Stalls in these situations/configuration are a non-event - there are others where it will get quite aggressive.
(I wouldn't do that in my usual Decathlon, per my prior post.)
70 mph is too hard to achieve, 65 or so is much easier - that's 1.2Vs.
Today we were doing steep approaches in a 30 deg banked turn/sideslip between 60 and 65 (my student needs to work on being more precise), crossing the fence at 55.
Stalls in these situations/configuration are a non-event - there are others where it will get quite aggressive.
(I wouldn't do that in my usual Decathlon, per my prior post.)
