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Hopefully AndrewR will pipe up and say it's a private operation that has to be authorised by an AOC
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No one, I didn't have any success in opening your link.
I did find this, from Australian Flying in 2013, while I was browsing...
CASA has confirmed that pilots will need to comply with the regulations of CASR 21.M to install "GoPro" type cameras on the external surface of an aircraft.
Under CASR 21.M (the old CAR35), a CASA authorised person has to approve the installation against existing airworthiness standards before the aeroplane can be flown.
"Attaching anything to the external surfaces of an aircraft, whether it is the wing or not, is considered a modification," CASA's spokesperson said.
"Depending on what is being attached, it may have an effect on the aerodynamics, structure and depending on its location it can affect the airspeed/altimeter readings, etc. Therefore, the alteration to the aircraft needs to be justified against the applicable airworthiness standard.
"Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) 1988 regulation 35 was repealed approximately two years ago and replace by CASA Subpart 21.M. However, CASR Subpart 21.M has the same requirements as CAR 35 did.
"CASR Subpart 21.M does not disallow the installation of a modification or alteration to an aircraft, it is a regulation that allows design approval of the modification. CAR 42U requires any modification or repair to an aircraft to be installed in accordance with approved data. Therefore attaching a temporary modification must be done to 21.M approved data by an appropriately licenced person."
With the proliferation of GoPro-style cameras for videos and still shots, the issue has been bought into sharp focus, especially when those shots are published or put on websites.
Read more at CASA Confirms External Camera Ruling - Australian Flying
Feueraxt, the sex is provided by professional / conscientious pilots watching this and screaming FFS
I did find this, from Australian Flying in 2013, while I was browsing...
CASA has confirmed that pilots will need to comply with the regulations of CASR 21.M to install "GoPro" type cameras on the external surface of an aircraft.
Under CASR 21.M (the old CAR35), a CASA authorised person has to approve the installation against existing airworthiness standards before the aeroplane can be flown.
"Attaching anything to the external surfaces of an aircraft, whether it is the wing or not, is considered a modification," CASA's spokesperson said.
"Depending on what is being attached, it may have an effect on the aerodynamics, structure and depending on its location it can affect the airspeed/altimeter readings, etc. Therefore, the alteration to the aircraft needs to be justified against the applicable airworthiness standard.
"Civil Aviation Regulations (CAR) 1988 regulation 35 was repealed approximately two years ago and replace by CASA Subpart 21.M. However, CASR Subpart 21.M has the same requirements as CAR 35 did.
"CASR Subpart 21.M does not disallow the installation of a modification or alteration to an aircraft, it is a regulation that allows design approval of the modification. CAR 42U requires any modification or repair to an aircraft to be installed in accordance with approved data. Therefore attaching a temporary modification must be done to 21.M approved data by an appropriately licenced person."
With the proliferation of GoPro-style cameras for videos and still shots, the issue has been bought into sharp focus, especially when those shots are published or put on websites.
Read more at CASA Confirms External Camera Ruling - Australian Flying
Feueraxt, the sex is provided by professional / conscientious pilots watching this and screaming FFS
...conscientious pilots watching this...
https://www.facebook.com/PaulMurrayL...6959478666347/
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DF I know mate but it does seem a bit melodramatic even considering the knowledge of the average viewers...We all know a little more planning goes into it, not to mention science and physics.....P charts, W&B etc......
We don't just put an finger in the wind and say "she'll be right, luck of the draw"
We don't just put an finger in the wind and say "she'll be right, luck of the draw"
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CASA has confirmed that pilots will need to comply with the regulations of CASR 21.M to install "GoPro" type cameras on the external surface of an aircraft.
"CASR Subpart 21.M does not disallow the installation of a modification or alteration to an aircraft, it is a regulation that allows design approval of the modification. CAR 42U requires any modification or repair to an aircraft to be installed in accordance with approved data. Therefore attaching a temporary modification must be done to 21.M approved data by an appropriately licenced person."
"CASR Subpart 21.M does not disallow the installation of a modification or alteration to an aircraft, it is a regulation that allows design approval of the modification. CAR 42U requires any modification or repair to an aircraft to be installed in accordance with approved data. Therefore attaching a temporary modification must be done to 21.M approved data by an appropriately licenced person."
So what is approved data? and where must it be recorded?
I think to myself why on earth would these people agree to be filmed? It's not mandatory. You can say no.
When that Airline show was being filmed at Tiger Airways a few years ago only a couple of people refused to take part.
One of the people who refused worked in Ops so if there was a turn back or AOG and he was working he wouldn't let the production crew in the office. The producers would lose their s*#t at him because 99% of the time nothing happened worth filming. They would wait for shift change then "re enact" the drama.
It was said that the lengths people would go to just to get 10 seconds on TV was scary. They would say anything the producer wanted them too.
When that Airline show was being filmed at Tiger Airways a few years ago only a couple of people refused to take part.
One of the people who refused worked in Ops so if there was a turn back or AOG and he was working he wouldn't let the production crew in the office. The producers would lose their s*#t at him because 99% of the time nothing happened worth filming. They would wait for shift change then "re enact" the drama.
It was said that the lengths people would go to just to get 10 seconds on TV was scary. They would say anything the producer wanted them too.
Yes, but it's brilliant entertainment on free to air TV. There's far worse out there!
I just so love the lost cattle and goats stories. (The photography of the bush is always well appreciated by me.)
Invariably, there's a happy ending..
I just so love the lost cattle and goats stories. (The photography of the bush is always well appreciated by me.)
Invariably, there's a happy ending..
...Yes, but it's brilliant entertainment on free to air TV...
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In 2007 I was tasked with taking a production team, a vet and his assistant to Bathurst Island where they were filming an episode for "Outback Vet". I thought this is going to be an easy day - quick trip then a restful day followed by a quick trip back to Darwin. Ha!
We had to walk out to the aircraft 3 times being filled from behind, in front and from the side. Then we were filmed boarding the aircraft, then of course I had to get out again to get the bloody production crew in as well. At Bathurst Island the vet and his assistant had to be filmed getting out of the aircraft. Then I had to do a circuit so the aircraft could be filmed landing. Then they all departed for the community for the day.
Bathurst Island at the time didn't have lights and last light was starting to get close and I didn't have the number for the director's assistant. So ring Darwin, they only had the production house number in Sydney. Ring them. Get the assistant's number. Ring her - get one very peed off lady who wants to do serious damage to the director as he is being totally pretentious about filming his magnum opus. Advise her that if they aren't back in 30 minutes were on the island for the night. Some serious swearing followed followed by..."we'll be there".
I thought, great - it will work out well. Oh no, when director arrives he wants to film more scenes of boarding etc. I give him a time limit at which the look on his face can only be described as one who has been told that his favourite cafe is out of coffee and has been served tea instead.
Thankfully, the 402 is tightly cowled and temps come up quickly. We got airborne with only a minute or two to spare. The episode never went to air. It wound up on Channel 7 web site only. So much for the 15 minutes of fame.
We had to walk out to the aircraft 3 times being filled from behind, in front and from the side. Then we were filmed boarding the aircraft, then of course I had to get out again to get the bloody production crew in as well. At Bathurst Island the vet and his assistant had to be filmed getting out of the aircraft. Then I had to do a circuit so the aircraft could be filmed landing. Then they all departed for the community for the day.
Bathurst Island at the time didn't have lights and last light was starting to get close and I didn't have the number for the director's assistant. So ring Darwin, they only had the production house number in Sydney. Ring them. Get the assistant's number. Ring her - get one very peed off lady who wants to do serious damage to the director as he is being totally pretentious about filming his magnum opus. Advise her that if they aren't back in 30 minutes were on the island for the night. Some serious swearing followed followed by..."we'll be there".
I thought, great - it will work out well. Oh no, when director arrives he wants to film more scenes of boarding etc. I give him a time limit at which the look on his face can only be described as one who has been told that his favourite cafe is out of coffee and has been served tea instead.
Thankfully, the 402 is tightly cowled and temps come up quickly. We got airborne with only a minute or two to spare. The episode never went to air. It wound up on Channel 7 web site only. So much for the 15 minutes of fame.
In 2007 I was tasked with taking a production team, a vet and his assistant to Bathurst Island where they were filming an episode for "Outback Vet". I thought this is going to be an easy day - quick trip then a restful day followed by a quick trip back to Darwin. Ha!
We had to walk out to the aircraft 3 times being filled from behind, in front and from the side. Then we were filmed boarding the aircraft, then of course I had to get out again to get the bloody production crew in as well. At Bathurst Island the vet and his assistant had to be filmed getting out of the aircraft. Then I had to do a circuit so the aircraft could be filmed landing. Then they all departed for the community for the day.
Bathurst Island at the time didn't have lights and last light was starting to get close and I didn't have the number for the director's assistant. So ring Darwin, they only had the production house number in Sydney. Ring them. Get the assistant's number. Ring her - get one very peed off lady who wants to do serious damage to the director as he is being totally pretentious about filming his magnum opus. Advise her that if they aren't back in 30 minutes were on the island for the night. Some serious swearing followed followed by..."we'll be there".
I thought, great - it will work out well. Oh no, when director arrives he wants to film more scenes of boarding etc. I give him a time limit at which the look on his face can only be described as one who has been told that his favourite cafe is out of coffee and has been served tea instead.
Thankfully, the 402 is tightly cowled and temps come up quickly. We got airborne with only a minute or two to spare. The episode never went to air. It wound up on Channel 7 web site only. So much for the 15 minutes of fame.
We had to walk out to the aircraft 3 times being filled from behind, in front and from the side. Then we were filmed boarding the aircraft, then of course I had to get out again to get the bloody production crew in as well. At Bathurst Island the vet and his assistant had to be filmed getting out of the aircraft. Then I had to do a circuit so the aircraft could be filmed landing. Then they all departed for the community for the day.
Bathurst Island at the time didn't have lights and last light was starting to get close and I didn't have the number for the director's assistant. So ring Darwin, they only had the production house number in Sydney. Ring them. Get the assistant's number. Ring her - get one very peed off lady who wants to do serious damage to the director as he is being totally pretentious about filming his magnum opus. Advise her that if they aren't back in 30 minutes were on the island for the night. Some serious swearing followed followed by..."we'll be there".
I thought, great - it will work out well. Oh no, when director arrives he wants to film more scenes of boarding etc. I give him a time limit at which the look on his face can only be described as one who has been told that his favourite cafe is out of coffee and has been served tea instead.
Thankfully, the 402 is tightly cowled and temps come up quickly. We got airborne with only a minute or two to spare. The episode never went to air. It wound up on Channel 7 web site only. So much for the 15 minutes of fame.
Also remember one day standing out of sight of the camera crew behind another aircraft & making the pilot of the mail run plane laugh by making obscene hand gestures which conveyed what I thought of them, which resulted in them having to shoot the scene a few more times. Revenge is sweet sometimes!
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Gerry, I too had no idea such opportunities existed. The cynics amongst us might even suggest that being in GA is good preparation to participate in such activities. Just BYO pineapple?
The results might not be shown on free to air Telly, though.
The results might not be shown on free to air Telly, though.
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