Light aircraft crash near Camden NSW.
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Light aircraft crash near Camden NSW.
News reporting a crash in paddock, 2 POB, non-life threatening injuries. Pictures indicating a Piper Warrior, right wing torn off.
Not far off the end of 06.
Wonder if he inadvertently turned the go juice selector to off in his run up checks.
They're still kicking,- that's what matters most, I suppose.
Wonder if he inadvertently turned the go juice selector to off in his run up checks.
They're still kicking,- that's what matters most, I suppose.
Shirley a dyslexic Warrior Piper would be a Wiper Porrier?
Lead Balloon - that's a MooneySpism.
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Entirely possible. A lot of PA28s I've flown seem to have fuel selector safety guards that don't seem to spring up to block an accidental switching to off.
It wouldn't make it that far, I make a point of learning how long an engine will run with the fuel selector off. A Warrior would make it from the 06 runup bay to about 100m along the takeoff run at best. I teach pilots to turn electric fuel pumps off only when you are in a position to carry out a safe forced landing. In the event of a failed mechanical pump and reliance on the electric pump, the engine will only run for a matter of seconds before losing power. I'm not suggesting this to be the case here.
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It remains unclear what caused the aircraft to fail shortly after takeoff as it had just been fitted out with a new engine. Photo shows VH-SWV (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...d719702d36f9bb)
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It wouldn't make it that far, I make a point of learning how long an engine will run with the fuel selector off. A Warrior would make it from the 06 runup bay to about 100m along the takeoff run at best. I teach pilots to turn electric fuel pumps off only when you are in a position to carry out a safe forced landing. In the event of a failed mechanical pump and reliance on the electric pump, the engine will only run for a matter of seconds before losing power. I'm not suggesting this to be the case here.
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Not saying this is what happened here, but I sometimes check out people in PA28s who turn the fuel pump off at 300 feet ie the time you need that redundancy the most, because "that's what my instructor told me to do" rather than read the POH or even consider what the electric pump is there for.
If the engine driven pump fails it will take about 1000 feet of gliding after turning the electric pump on before the engine will have fuel again.
Some of the really old PA28s don't have the safety catch to stop you turning it off by mistake. The 151 does.
Glad they are OK! Good job.
If the engine driven pump fails it will take about 1000 feet of gliding after turning the electric pump on before the engine will have fuel again.
Some of the really old PA28s don't have the safety catch to stop you turning it off by mistake. The 151 does.
Glad they are OK! Good job.
Old Fella, Diffracted just mentioned that its handy to know these things and be able to pass on as general knowledge. I'm sure both of you teach what's meant to be taught
I've always taught that turning a fuel pump off is not a function of altitude but a function of position and situational awareness.
Where are you and where you going.
Straight out? Downwind departure?
Night? Day VMC?
Locations off airport landing opportunities?
On a side note.
Replacing an engine doesn't mean that accessories are always new.
Everything external that isn't required to be replaced can be swapped from the 'old' engine.
No saying how many hours an engine driven pump may have on it.
Where are you and where you going.
Straight out? Downwind departure?
Night? Day VMC?
Locations off airport landing opportunities?
On a side note.
Replacing an engine doesn't mean that accessories are always new.
Everything external that isn't required to be replaced can be swapped from the 'old' engine.
No saying how many hours an engine driven pump may have on it.
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B2N2. I would be surprised if the engine driven fuel pump was not lifed. It would therefore be either replaced at engine overhaul or, at least, be inspected for further service if still inside its published TBO. The article below may be of interest:
http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2017/0...85u-fatal.html
Last edited by Old Fella; 22nd Apr 2017 at 10:26. Reason: Added info.