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Old 20th Mar 2017, 22:21
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One For Jump Pilots

Skydiving is exciting enough without the extras thank you.

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Old 21st Mar 2017, 00:07
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why ?

unload the wing, add power = non event

aft c of g
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 03:26
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two pilots up front and they still couldn't keep the thing straight and level on jump run.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 04:59
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Adding power is NOT the appropriate way to recover from a spin. Unless you enjoy flat spins.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 07:17
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A half decent steerer wouldn't have spun it, shouldn't have progressed beyond slight wing drop
prior to their departure
unload the wing, add power = non event
No stall
No spin
And all the other basic ppl stuff
Outback pilots SA style ?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 09:34
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How bout this one? A miracle that nobody was killed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p6hqMnsLFY
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 09:47
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Was he under a RIS, SIS, DTI or just unalerted S and A?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 11:46
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Some major incompetence, if accidental. And certainly more so, if the spin was intentional..

I'll just go and check the value of shares in 'Skydive The Beach'. (SKB on the ASX.)
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 12:22
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Looks intentional - check behaviour of both crew. Why though?
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 10:22
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Originally Posted by jonkster
Looks intentional - check behaviour of both crew. Why though?
^^ This ^^
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 10:40
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Originally Posted by jonkster
Looks intentional - check behaviour of both crew. Why though?
Intentional would be irresponsible, jumpers could hit the tail with severe consequences.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 10:47
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Originally Posted by FGD135
How bout this one? A miracle that nobody was killed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p6hqMnsLFY
Pilots bailed out too?

I flew formation with jumpers in a past life, but side by side, not on top of another plane. WTF.
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 06:32
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The plane was falling and spinning. Dawson was in trouble. He recalls: "There were still one or two people in the plane when the tail separated. I think one of them was spat out at that point. As the tail snapped off, the plane whaled on to its back and Crash (Craig Bennett) got pushed up against the windscreen. I was saying, 'Crash! Get the f--- out'. But Crash wasn't sure whether to step on the instruments and damage the plane. That's what appeared to be going through his mind. But he got his foot on the panel and I saw him go over the seats like Superman."
Bennett left the plane at about 9000 feet. Meanwhile, Dawson had shut down the fuel pumps, the engine and, with one hand on the control column, calling "Mayday, mayday, mayday", he unbuckled his seatbelt and brought up his left leg to push off the instrument panel, as Bennett had done. But as soon as he let go of the controls, the plane started spinning, and Dawson's dash went nowhere: the G-forces slammed him face first to the floor, between the seats, breaking a rib.
"As I hit the floor, I heard the door go 'bang', the sound it makes when it's dropped . . . I couldn't even raise my arm up and I was trying to push forward using my legs but then my boot got stuck, my right foot, stuck in the seat belt."


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Originally Posted by TowerDog
Pilots bailed out too?

I flew formation with jumpers in a past life, but side by side, not on top of another plane. WTF.
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Was thinking the same thing....multiple C 182s, DC 3s etc with no issues... My guess is either little or no pre-coordination, formation flying experience....
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Old 23rd Mar 2017, 14:00
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Originally Posted by Eclan
This is pretty common and there are plenty of youtube videos of Porters etc rolling over into a dive (I think in beta range) as the jumpers exit and following the freefallers down. Maybe being a piston they didn't want to descend at idle (in a spiral) so they spin it instead.

Obviously not dangerous or they'd have hit someone!
Not dangerous to spin the plane with jumpers exiting?

I disagree..
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