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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 23:30
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The Matra R530 radar guided missile has all its tail fins but is missing the four wings although the four "spars" are still present. The item on the centreline is an AN/ALQ-72 ECM pod. I am advised that they were used mainly to familiarise RAAF pilots with the effects of having become a jammee! A3-16 is still missing a few bits so all contributions will be gratefully accepted
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IIRC the Mirage III was never nuclear capable and could not be made so. There is a lot more to the job than attaching a bucket of sunshine to a weapons rack. The Australian jets were pretty much fit for spares only which is I believe what happened to them.
I don't want to out-google anyone, but I do recall the Pakistanis modified the ex-RAAF Mirages sold to Pakistan by the Hawke Labor government , to carry a locally made cruise missile that carries a nuclear warhead in the low kilotons. Testing of the missiles were carried out on ex RAAF aircraft, with a limited operational capability prior to integration with other platforms.
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IIRC the Mirage III was never nuclear capable and could not be made so. There is a lot more to the job than attaching a bucket of sunshine to a weapons rack. The Australian jets were pretty much fit for spares only which is I believe what happened to them.
Most of the Oz Mirages sold to Pakistan were more than just spares, see IIIO Rose upgrades here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_ROSE

And plenty of innuendo on their Nuclear capability, eg Jet sales to Pakistan haunt Canberra - National - theage.com.au
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 09:40
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Did you ever souvenir a few bits during your pre flights, Bloggs?
Well, I know you did, Gerry111.

FFS, I've still got something you passed on to me......I think!

There was that....er...no.. I think I lost that when I last moved house but there was that....ummm
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Old 5th Feb 2017, 10:24
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A3-28...

Re: A3-28 ejection by D.M. Johnson, I heard a rumour many years ago that he was the first ejection from a Mirage in OZ, believe he was Doug Johnson (DCA) who did my initial instrument rating check in Brisbane in 1977, can anyone confirm?
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A3-28 ejection was 18 months after A3-1 lost with high speed ejection, said by some to be first supersonic ejection.
That was an RAAF Mirage flown by RAF pilot during test flying, as I recall.

http://www.adf-serials.com.au/resear...crew-eject.pdf
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Hi 'Big Boys'.....Care to tell me how a 'miracle 3' could not intercept or get 'anywhere near' ze Concorde, when ze Concorde visited ze SY, way back when.....

OUR 'top fighter interceptor' no catchee...?? Despite a couple of attempts...??

Once when 'she' was arriving...and ze ozer when 'she' was departing...??

Had we been 'at war', and 'she' was ze enemy bomber, zen we would 'ave been ...'fecked'.....??

n'est-ce-pas..??

Cheers and standing by pour ze incoming.....
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Old 6th Feb 2017, 00:25
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The Miracle may have had speed, but she didn't have endurance - during war games at Willy they were defending the base against USAF F-15. The 15s would come zooming in, our lads would wait until they got close enough, then launch for an intercept - but the Yanks would turn and run to make the Mirage chase them. When they hit Bingo fuel and turned around, the 15s followed them back to Willy and played games overhead while our short-legged birds landed and were getting refuelled.
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Old 6th Feb 2017, 00:36
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And I suspect, Griffo, that the Mirage jocks would 'ave been saying things like 'merde' or even stronger epithets!
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A3-28 ejection was 18 months after A3-1 lost with high speed ejection, said by some to be first supersonic ejection.
That was an RAAF Mirage flown by RAF pilot during test flying, as I recall.

That was Tony Svensson, a lovely bloke, he sailed with my father and I on weekends.

I seem to recall that he had engine flameout and attempted to dive for a restart. He may have been supersonic. Either his leg restraints weren't fitted correctly or broke and he suffered broken legs and arms. I went to see him in hospital a few times.
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For those interested in the Mirage story:

http://www.radschool.org.au/Books/th..._story_opt.pdf
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and played games overhead while our short-legged birds landed and were getting refuelled

.. love it
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"and played games overhead while our short-legged birds landed and were getting refuelled".

Not entirely my recollection from 1981 at 77 Sqn. We had some of our Mirages fitted with centre line tanks to get around that. There's a few photos out there showing a Mirage gunsight pipper sitting rather uncomfortably on an Okinawa ZZ Squadron F-15C..
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Old 11th Feb 2017, 04:14
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Some Mirage pilot kill claims on exercise back in the 80's seem quite extraordinary now.
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