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Another Jab engine failure...

Old 28th Oct 2016, 10:25
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Another Jab engine failure...

Much excitement on the Wagga CTAF this afternoon - Qantas ramp ops on the CTAF calling the inbound 2 x Rex, 1 x qlink that the council had had a phone call of an aircraft "possibly a jabiru" in a paddock.

Well done to all 3 and the tecnam who launched to go looking - good coordination and thoughtfulness from the last 2 arrivals to slow down and keep out the way whilst searching was organised.

Last we heard was that the Jab was safely down and the pilot walking to a road for help.

Another failure!

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Old 28th Oct 2016, 10:51
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good coordination and thoughtfulness from the last 2 arrivals to slow down and keep out the way whilst searching was organised.
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 11:39
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If a Jab has an engine failure and lands in a paddock is the paddock worth more or less than it was before the Jab landed in it?
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Old 28th Oct 2016, 20:35
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Q: What do you call a paddock with a Jabiru in it??

A; A rubbish tip.
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Old 29th Oct 2016, 00:07
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All the Jab owner has to do, is walk to the next paddock to find another Jab engine. As one infamous PPRuNe contributor noted, every paddock contains at least one Jab engine.
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Old 29th Oct 2016, 02:24
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Originally Posted by Sunfish View Post
Q: What do you call a paddock with a Jabiru in it??

A; A rubbish tip.
What do you call a Zenith half kit built aircraft in GK's hangar with a Rotax 912is with no manifold pressure information in the flight manual and a prop that has to be reco'ed before it can be used ?
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Old 29th Oct 2016, 09:44
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A nadir?......just sayin
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Old 29th Oct 2016, 14:11
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I would like to place on record that this incident can, in no respect, be blamed on the Jabiru engine. The engine continued to run smoothly until on the ground.
The aircraft had undergone work on items including fuel pump, carby and associated plumbing. The flight was a post maintenance check, and followed successful ground running.
On climb out, the engine rapidly, and without herald, powered down to approx. zero thrust. It continued to run smoothly. Accepting the inevitable, I landed in one of the areas off 05 that had always looked useable. Happily, it was.
For my sin, I got to walk through 500 metres of brown snake infested, long grass.
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With that user name Fred, you must know something about engines, even if it is big round ones!!
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Old 29th Oct 2016, 21:04
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Thanks Fred, it's always good to hear the other side of the story :-)
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Old 29th Oct 2016, 21:12
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First of all I apologise unreservedly to jabiru owners for my previous post, I was presented with an opportunity to be flippant and rude and I took it.

Secondly I apologise to Fred. Loss of power is no laughing matter and congratulations for handling it so well. I would be interested to know the cause when you find it in the hope that I and others can prevent the same thing happening to us.
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"I would like to place on record that this incident can, in no respect, be blamed on the Jabiru engine".

Bold statement unless cause is known. As a rule I never count anything out during an investigation.
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Old 30th Oct 2016, 03:26
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I don't apologise, I made a joke and reserve the right to continue to joke.
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I don't apologise, I made a joke and reserve the right to continue to joke.
If an RV10 lands in a paddock.... what's the next bit, something about glass houses?
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Old 30th Oct 2016, 08:12
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How can the engine be running perfectly and be completely faultless, if it "powered down to approximately zero thrust"?
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Old 30th Oct 2016, 08:31
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Munz I would say if the throttle cable became "disconnected" the engine would be completely faultless. Therefore should not be recorded as a engine "mishap".

But I am wondering is why fuel pump (assume EDP) carby and plumbing had work done on them! or was it extra to routine maintenance? these 3 items certainly are "engine" so if one was responsible it is in effect a Jabiru engine failure regardless if it is maintenance induced. (Maintenance induced could be lack of data or other)

Not here to pro or con said motor, just facts.
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If hypothetically someone pulls apart a mechanical fuel pump and puts it back together incorrectly, it's hardly the engine manufacturers fault...

FYI - If the throttle was "disconnected" the spring would take it to full power.
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Old 30th Oct 2016, 10:28
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"FYI - If the throttle was "disconnected" the spring would take it to full power."

Is this fact for installation? I know many not a fact, Cessna 206 - I certainly know if bolt detaches - no such spring exists.
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If an RV10 lands in a paddock.... what's the next bit, something about glass houses?
Would I whinge if someone made a joke about the 10 landing in a paddock? Doubt it.

Joke away...............
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On CSU aircraft yes a spring - if detach goes to full fine.

Not many have a full power on throttle spring, if any!
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