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Adelaide in for a storm!

Old 28th Sep 2016, 06:22
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Adelaide in for a storm!

Just looking at BOM. Wow, SA airports are in for a hit! Hopefully all the GA aircraft are tied down
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No answers due to no power
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 09:30
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Yer gotta be jealous of them South Oz residents. At the moment they is living the greeny dream..





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Old 28th Sep 2016, 13:33
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Originally Posted by Flying Binghi View Post
Yer gotta be jealous of them South Oz residents. At the moment they is living the greeny dream..

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To be fair, we are burning coal at the expense of their higher energy bill.
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At the moment they is living the greeny dream
And that dream has just turned into a Nightmare!

Many warnings were given apparently but the Govt. refused to listen it seems.
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what will the GREENY BIMBO'S use for electricty after coal.


CANDLES !!
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 05:10
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This will be good. Pilots telling us how to fix our HV transmission problems. Fact is the storm blew over 22 towers near Melrose. This trunk main supplies pretty well everything north and west of pt Pirie. Makes no difference how that power was generated it took out the system. The real issue is why it took out the rest of the state with it. The pollies and bureacrats are now covering there arses saying the system self protected itself. It shouldnt have. With auto reclosers,and a multitude of protection devises the system should have detected the line with the fault,dropped it off then re energised. It didnt. My personel opinion this is what you get when you sell off the assett and have multiple suppliers and distrubution networks all with there finger in the pie.The left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing. Good luck NSW with your sell off.

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Old 29th Sep 2016, 05:47
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Facts at last. Nought to do with generation, all to do with distribution.

Funny thing is that a decent decentralised system fed by a generation in a multitude of decentralised locations (think rooftops, farms) would not rely on one point of failure. Think internet design.
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 06:16
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Too true. We had one once.At Port Augusta.
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 06:28
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In fact if Pt Augusta was still on line the eyre peninsula would be supplied today. It used to supply all that and back up Torrens Is in Adelaide. But what would I know.I not smart like our pollies and snakeoil salesmen.
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 21:17
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In fact if Pt Augusta was still on line the eyre peninsula would be supplied today.
Did you ever stop to think that the dirty Pt Augusta power station and thousands of others like it may be a contributing factor to these weather events.

The problem of fluctuating power from renewables will be solved. The renewable industry is still in its infancy.

All those naysayers should hark back to early electricity production where the usual handbrakes predicted it would never be much use because the then DC current was only good for a couple of miles. .Then along came Nikola Tesla.

Where would we be today if the Luddites against electricity back then had not been ignored?
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 21:48
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It was a 1 in 50 year event. Not a new manifestation of human induced climate change.

I'd be asking why 20+ transmission towers weren't engineered to withstand what is not an uncommon event.
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 22:10
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Did you ever stop to think that the dirty Pt Augusta power station and thousands of others like it may be a contributing factor to these weather events.
Australia contributes less than 1% of global emissions. The clap trap that the Greens et al use is the "per capita" statistic which is in fact meaningless considering the number of people here. There are more people in Jakarta than Australia for example..

By the way, back to aviation, how did Parafield and ADL go?
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It was a 1 in 50 year event. Not a new manifestation of human induced climate change.
The last time that South Australia had tornados was in May 2002 when it had two possibly three in the one day. 14 years later we have the current event. To maintain the 1 in 50 year average we should expect the next big event in 2102.

If one or more occur before then you may be induced to think you CoodaWooda Shooda been less skeptical about human induced climate change.
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 22:45
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Australia contributes less than 1% of global emissions.
I believe I said thousands of others. We are all living in the same pool of air. If someone is pissing pollution into the other end of the pool eventually it will effect our end of the pool as well.
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As I understood the Bureau of Meteorology, the last time there was an event of this nature was in the 1960's. This appears to have been more cyclone than tornado.

Those towers look rather flimsy, in any event.

(When the proponent of a position uses exaggerated claims and character assassination, rather than basic facts, as its tools of trade, I can be nothing but skeptical. )
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Via rutan around:
Did you ever stop to think that the dirty Pt Augusta power station and thousands of others like it may be a contributing factor to these weather events.

The problem of fluctuating power from renewables will be solved. The renewable industry is still in its infancy.

All those naysayers should hark back to early electricity production where the usual handbrakes predicted it would never be much use because the then DC current was only good for a couple of miles. .Then along came Nikola Tesla.

Where would we be today if the Luddites against electricity back then had not been ignored?
When the DC-AC industry were in its infancy it were private industry, not tax payer subsidies, that solved the mater. I note at the time of the DC-AC 'debate' there were no screaming AC zealots running around saying we needed to destroy all candles and gas lights as AC has arrived..

...then along came Nikola Tesla.

"The only method compatible with our notions of civilisation and race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilisation and..."
continues PBS: Tesla - Master of Lightning: A Machine to End War

...so, rutan around, are yer a eugenics true believer or is yer a Luddite..





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Old 30th Sep 2016, 00:13
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This appears to have been more cyclone than tornado.
My understanding of cyclones is that they form and are energised in warm tropical waters and they fizzle out over land or when they reach cool water. Have you ever swum in sea water in SA?

News reports say tornados took out the power towers. Before you become too skeptical it might be wise to check whether the claims are exaggerated.

A 'tornado' filmed in South Australia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 00:42
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Binghi,

not tax payer subsidies,
Do I take it from this that you are advocating the removal of all taxpayer subsidies from the coal industry and the power distribution industry. If so you and I are on a unity ticket.

Humans are rarely (never?) flawless . Do we ignore Tesla's electrical genius because his outdated views re eugenics? Do we ignore Einstein's theories because he was a womaniser?
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Hmmm... I see most of South Australia's big power stations ain't working at the movement.. Plenty of coal around Oz, why ain't the S.A. Power stations working.......


Having a look-see at S.A's current wind map I see's quiet a bit of it:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#curren...27,-33.53,3000

The big S.A. power stations are wind. Now they got too much wind..
Hense, at the moment practically no wind power in S.A. Wind Energy in Australia | Aneroid




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