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Old 27th Sep 2016, 08:40
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Looking for the 2nd job

Hi everyone.

I'm currently looking for that next job and taking all the advice I can get

Im working for a great company at the moment flying ga8, c206, c172 and have passed over 1200 hours but I'm starting to get the itch to fly something a little more complex.

before I start looking I was hoping to gain more insight as to what is happening in the ga community and which way to go about it. Looking for companies where I can settle into for an extended time and have something more to work towards.
Remote living is not a problem (more of an adventure) and I really want to see more of Australia!

Just looking for thoughts and ideal ga companies to start applying for. Can travel anywhere in the country but I don't like the idea of moving to a particular location to try for just one or two operators in the area.

I have looked at previous threads but want some more current advice 👍
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 09:36
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Depends where you want to spend the next few years, with your hours you would certainly be in a good position to get a look in with just about any GA company up north. If you have a multi engine class rating on a piston twin you would probably even get a twin job in PNG.

PM me if you want a run down on who is in the zoo up in PNG.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 10:45
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Lots of movement in the airlines over the next 12 months. Lots of guys from GA are going to get sucked upwards, leaving lots of positions to be filled at the higher GA levels. Good time to be looking for work, make sure you are laying the ground work now.
 
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I have a MECIR but only around 50 hours twin.. The best companies I've seen are hardys and chartair.. Unfortunately I don't have atpls for hardys though.

Don't want to throw all my eggs into those 2 companies any suggestions on anywhere else?
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My advice would be get those ATPL subjects asap regardless of a new job.
Qantas is recruiting so the whole industry will move and you need those subjects more than more hours right now, IMO.
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Get the subjects done. Seen quite a few get left behind because they couldn't be bothered getting the subjects knocked over. Once you are working full time out in the sticks, it all of a sudden becomes a lot harder and and takes longer to complete them.

In my opinion you don't want to get too settled into a GA company. The money is ****e and conditions average. Your life will be much more enjoyable working for a regional.
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Yeah started the subjects and I'll just keep sending updated resumes each time I do one
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Saw spookfish on afap.. Does any one know much about the flying subsidiary there?
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Mogga,

They seem to be a small company based out at Jandakot with well serviced and tidy aircraft. They only fly in fair weather conditions for their survey/photography.

$75k for a piston driver isn't too bad either.

https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...20line%20pilot
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+1 on getting the subjects done. With your total time, you'll get a twin job, knock over your 500 command in a year and then suddenly realise you're going to miss the regional recruitment wave because you didn't give yourself enough time to comfortably get the exams completed. I've known a few guys who missed good opportunities because they didn't factor in enough exam time, or the possibility of failing painful exams like Flight Planning.
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Keep fishing but eyes on the prize.

Try and find a twin, any twin gig that you can. That being said...

as the brains trust above have said. Go and get your bloody subjects done you slacker.

If you want the gods honest truth, it is the thing that will hold you back the most and the thing you will need the least. It is a waste of time but it proves to the industry that you can actually sit down and apply yourself. That is all pure and simple.


This game is all about ticking the right boxes.

I am glad you have felt confident enough to move on to the twin box, and then the turbine, then multi few maybe.


But if you don't get those subjects sorted asap they will come to haunt you in a big way. Preventing you from getting better boxes... And if I remember my time up north it was all about scoring as many of these as you could.... I digress.

A lot of people I know did them up on the coast with the usual suspects (aft). It seems like big money, but the courses are good in providing you with some good contacts too. (even know of a couple of jobs that came about by doing it)

See if you can get the time squared away with your boss and take the time off work (staying in employment) or if not try and build up to sitting them all in one go and pack the car for the trip up and over the costal roads and rich red dirt.


Can't say I miss it, but it was a simpler time to have only one lot of debt to pay off and the future of bigger and better things to come... It sounds like you have the correct attitude... Be sure to enjoy the journey too. You will join the rank of grumpy old Capt brigade soon enough. And if you are lucky enough one day in the sim you might even be able to relate some of the useless knowledge you crammed for 10-15 years prior into a real and relatable circumstance.

But don't worry.... The computer will do most of it anyway.
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Thanks for that mr_pilot

I have recently started them so the timer is ticking! I am hoping to cram them out in a few months 👍
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Perhaps a stint in the S.A. outback at William Creek might suit you next? Wrightsair operate GA-8; C206; C207; C210 and Aerostar.

(And when all of S.A. loses its electricity supply, Trevor has generators so the beer's always cold there.)
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If you want the gods honest truth, it is the thing that will hold you back the most and the thing you will need the least. It is a waste of time but it proves to the industry that you can actually sit down and apply yourself. That is all pure and simple.
With respect, I disagree. I was involved with a regional airline recruitment program 2009-2011 and we found ourselves hemmed in a number of times by great FOs who would make great captains except they didn't have their #$%^ exams done when we needed to upgrade them.
Any employer will be looking for the pilot they can upgrade. Once you get into the regional you will rack up hours and for all sorts of reasons the company may need to upgrade you before you, they, or anyone else expected it.
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What next

Hello all I am in a similar position. i.e. 1250 TT, 150 multi with current IPC 10 months remaining,MCC cert , ATPL subjects done. Prior to part 61 ends on PA31,baron,c310, pa44. Have not flown for 4 months to finish of subjects. I wonder were to now. Love any information
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Perhaps a stint in the S.A. outback at William Creek might suit you next? Wrightsair operate GA-8; C206; C207; C210 and Aerostar.
Are times really that tough that pilots with 1200 hours need to consider working at William Creek 2 hours from the nearest bitumen road and mobile coverage?

While I understand Trevor runs a solid firm, I thought he was always the kind of outfit that someone with 200 hours looks at...
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