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seeing as there are no fatalities? is it safe to discuss possible scenarios without someone being offended on someone else's behalf?
No nose wheel, possible pilot induced oscillations on landing?
No nose wheel, possible pilot induced oscillations on landing?
A new 182T struck three other aircraft, including a Piper Cherokee and Cessna 206, before coming to a halt, so one report says.
High winds they say which would explain the flapless, though jumpers were doing their thing, so how high?
Four survivors – a man in his 50s, a man in his 20s, a 31-year-old woman and a five-year-old girl were treated on the scene and taken to Frankston Hospital with light injuries, bruises and all shaken up.
CASA says it's a 182S of 1999, not new it would seem.
High winds they say which would explain the flapless, though jumpers were doing their thing, so how high?
Four survivors – a man in his 50s, a man in his 20s, a 31-year-old woman and a five-year-old girl were treated on the scene and taken to Frankston Hospital with light injuries, bruises and all shaken up.
CASA says it's a 182S of 1999, not new it would seem.
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He landed on 04 and there was a decent crosswind from the right, but it should have been ok for a C182,
He came unstuck about 600 metres from the 04 threshold, appears to have veered off to the left and taken the tail off an old twin parked next to the runway.
Possible it got a bit hairy and he started a go around, got blown to the left and then clipped the twin's tail.
Never like parking on the grass at YTDN, it's too close to the runway and there have been a few similar incidents in the past.
He came unstuck about 600 metres from the 04 threshold, appears to have veered off to the left and taken the tail off an old twin parked next to the runway.
Possible it got a bit hairy and he started a go around, got blown to the left and then clipped the twin's tail.
Never like parking on the grass at YTDN, it's too close to the runway and there have been a few similar incidents in the past.
Thanks for your detailed account PeterC. Did you ascertain all of that after you did a 10 knot + downwind landing when you arrived at about 5pm, around 4 hours after the crash?
Problems arose at about the 100-200 metre mark of the landing. It all went pear-shaped from there. The Seneca lost it's tail, a Cherokee 180 lost it's rear end, a 206 lost it's wing and it almost took out a GA8 taxiing (possibly with up to 8 skydivers on board - not sure if they were coming or going).
Possibly near a hundred people went running over to the aircraft and patrons at the restaurant all bolted down to "help" from the restaurant. People were screaming, the mother of the 5 year old at the top of her lungs trying to get to the aircraft to get her child out. Some heroic quick acting locals extracted the pilot and passengers in a few short moments, with fuel pissing out of the wing. As they often say during these types of events, it was quite surreal and almost happened in slow motion,
They were all bloody lucky with a capital B, in particular the rear seat passenger as the 206 wing sliced through the rear pillar and tore the side out of the 182. Very nasty and a huge potential to have killed them all. Fuel pissing out, other aircraft nearby, a busy Sunday afternoon, people everywhere... it could have been a lot worse.
Conditions were good with around a 12 knot wind at around 090 degrees on runway 04.
Problems arose at about the 100-200 metre mark of the landing. It all went pear-shaped from there. The Seneca lost it's tail, a Cherokee 180 lost it's rear end, a 206 lost it's wing and it almost took out a GA8 taxiing (possibly with up to 8 skydivers on board - not sure if they were coming or going).
Possibly near a hundred people went running over to the aircraft and patrons at the restaurant all bolted down to "help" from the restaurant. People were screaming, the mother of the 5 year old at the top of her lungs trying to get to the aircraft to get her child out. Some heroic quick acting locals extracted the pilot and passengers in a few short moments, with fuel pissing out of the wing. As they often say during these types of events, it was quite surreal and almost happened in slow motion,
They were all bloody lucky with a capital B, in particular the rear seat passenger as the 206 wing sliced through the rear pillar and tore the side out of the 182. Very nasty and a huge potential to have killed them all. Fuel pissing out, other aircraft nearby, a busy Sunday afternoon, people everywhere... it could have been a lot worse.
Conditions were good with around a 12 knot wind at around 090 degrees on runway 04.
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Peter, I think you'll find the red stuff at the front of the 182 is the red dye from the propeller hub.
Good to see VH-XXX/squark7700 keeping up appearances at YTDN, some things never change!
Looks like an excellent outcome for all involved. Hopefully any injuries are quickly healed and all the nice looking equipment is sufficiently insured.
Good to see VH-XXX/squark7700 keeping up appearances at YTDN, some things never change!
Looks like an excellent outcome for all involved. Hopefully any injuries are quickly healed and all the nice looking equipment is sufficiently insured.
Tooradin can be a bit of a pain to accurately ascertain the wind direction especially since they don't like you flying over the top with jumpers around and even aeros overhead......( understandably )
either way that doesn't stop you from carrying out a missed approach should you make an error.....
Glad know one was seriously hurt today
either way that doesn't stop you from carrying out a missed approach should you make an error.....
Glad know one was seriously hurt today
"Back to your corners boys, this is not helping."
I agree.
But the apparently venomous relationship between Squawk7700 and peterc005 makes for great late night entertainment over a pleasant glass of red.
I agree.
But the apparently venomous relationship between Squawk7700 and peterc005 makes for great late night entertainment over a pleasant glass of red.