Request for Centaurus or other Mustang pilots
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Request for Centaurus or other Mustang pilots
I'm searching for an incident report I read quite a long time ago concerning a Mustang with an inexperienced pilot doing touch and goes at, I think, RAAF East Sale, and hoping to enlist the help of Centaurus or others who may know where I could find an account of the occurrence.
Not sure of the time frame, but certainly back in the days when the RAAF operated them, rather than it being a warbird type situation.
It made amazing reading - as I recall, there were some 'high and dangerous bounces' during which the prop clipped the runway, but unaware of this, the pilot kept on going for a few more circuits. I was talking about it the other day to someone and said I would try to find the actual report.
Many thanks in advance,
Tim
Not sure of the time frame, but certainly back in the days when the RAAF operated them, rather than it being a warbird type situation.
It made amazing reading - as I recall, there were some 'high and dangerous bounces' during which the prop clipped the runway, but unaware of this, the pilot kept on going for a few more circuits. I was talking about it the other day to someone and said I would try to find the actual report.
Many thanks in advance,
Tim
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Any names ring a bell?
Accident to: Mustang A68-155 East Sale - Date: 16 February 1955 - Pilot: F/Sgt G V B Holding A35021
Incident re: Mustang A68-118 East Sale - Date: 20 July 1954 - Pilot: Sgt Hilder A26489
Incident re: Mustang A68-123 - 09 Runway RAAF East Sale - Date: 16 September 1955 - Pilot: D G Robertson (025331)
Accident at East Sale - Mustang number unknown - A32865 Cpl H Black injured 1 February 1955
Accident to: Mustang A68-155 East Sale - Date: 16 February 1955 - Pilot: F/Sgt G V B Holding A35021
Incident re: Mustang A68-118 East Sale - Date: 20 July 1954 - Pilot: Sgt Hilder A26489
Incident re: Mustang A68-123 - 09 Runway RAAF East Sale - Date: 16 September 1955 - Pilot: D G Robertson (025331)
Accident at East Sale - Mustang number unknown - A32865 Cpl H Black injured 1 February 1955
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25 Oct 1951 - Mustang Pilot Escapes Injury as Plane Breaks Up ...
Is this the one you're referring to? I read this a while back...
T&G
Is this the one you're referring to? I read this a while back...
T&G
The only incident I can find of a prop strike in my book of Mustangs in Australian Service was
Date: 21 November 1946
Aircraft Type: Mustang
Unit: CCU (Fighter)
Location: Williamtown, NSW
Date: 21 November 1946
Aircraft Type: Mustang
Unit: CCU (Fighter)
Location: Williamtown, NSW
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"Williamstown" NSW?
Yes Leaddie it's a major port and former shipbuilding town near Newcastle.
Not to be confused with Williamtown, the RAAF's major fighter base, located in Melbourne's western suburbs.
Not to be confused with Williamtown, the RAAF's major fighter base, located in Melbourne's western suburbs.
RAAF Base Williamtown - Royal Australian Air Force
Horatio,
Check the spelling.
In fact, drive down and have a look at the name on the gate.
Tootle pip!!
PS: Wotcha smokin dis days.
Horatio,
Check the spelling.
In fact, drive down and have a look at the name on the gate.
Tootle pip!!
PS: Wotcha smokin dis days.
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Pretty sure that's not the one, Touch and Go - this one was a circuit training sortie gone wrong, whereas the one you referred to sounds like they were out in formation and clipped one another. Thanks though.
Maybe Holding, Paul? Might not be, I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast sometimes. Thanks for the leads, and likewise Cat3508, cheers, I'll see what I can find out further from those.
Maybe Holding, Paul? Might not be, I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast sometimes. Thanks for the leads, and likewise Cat3508, cheers, I'll see what I can find out further from those.
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I got it, too, HL.
I think LeadSled must have his sense of humour system selected OFF today.
I think LeadSled must have his sense of humour system selected OFF today.
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Mustang Accidents Incidents - YWLM
Anything here AOTW?
Mustang A68-160 - Unit: 2 OTU [Operational Training Unit] 1 mile off end of runway 27 Williamtown - Date: 20 April 1953 - Pilot: Plt/Off D E N Hampton 032557 (forced landing after engine failure after takeoff)
Vampire A79-187 and Mustang A68-128 Accident to off Williamtown on 29-4-53
Mustang A68-172 - Unit: No 2 OTU [Operational Training Unit] Williamtown - Date: 25 April 1954 - Pilot: Flg/Off D J Woodman 023205
Mustang A68-118 Williamtown on 18/5/1950 - Pilot 435188 P2 W S Michelson
Mustang A68-172 - Unit: No 2 OTU [Operational Training Unit] Williamtown - Date: 25 April 1954 - Pilot: Flg/Off D J Woodman 023205
Mustang A68-152 - Unit: 2 (F) OTU [Operational Training Unit] Date: 1 July 1954 - Pilot: Sgt D K Baehnisch A4893 Date: 1 July 1954 - Pilot Baehnisch DK A4893
Mustang A68-160 - Unit: 2 OTU [Operational Training Unit] 1 mile off end of runway 27 Williamtown - Date: 20 April 1953 - Pilot: Plt/Off D E N Hampton 032557 (forced landing after engine failure after takeoff)
Vampire A79-187 and Mustang A68-128 Accident to off Williamtown on 29-4-53
Mustang A68-172 - Unit: No 2 OTU [Operational Training Unit] Williamtown - Date: 25 April 1954 - Pilot: Flg/Off D J Woodman 023205
Mustang A68-118 Williamtown on 18/5/1950 - Pilot 435188 P2 W S Michelson
Mustang A68-172 - Unit: No 2 OTU [Operational Training Unit] Williamtown - Date: 25 April 1954 - Pilot: Flg/Off D J Woodman 023205
Mustang A68-152 - Unit: 2 (F) OTU [Operational Training Unit] Date: 1 July 1954 - Pilot: Sgt D K Baehnisch A4893 Date: 1 July 1954 - Pilot Baehnisch DK A4893
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I remember being told of a story by the Sim* Instructor (initials GL) at my old Flying School where I did my initial MECIR who flew Mustangs with the old Civilian Air Force (as it was known then) of an incident he witnessed.
Apparently the Pilot bounced the A/C so badly that there was a prop strike and the Pilot taxied in with smoke pouring from the engine and after shut down the prop tips were bent at right angles at over a foot from the tips.
* Please lets not get into pedantic arguments on what constitutes a Simulator!
Apparently the Pilot bounced the A/C so badly that there was a prop strike and the Pilot taxied in with smoke pouring from the engine and after shut down the prop tips were bent at right angles at over a foot from the tips.
* Please lets not get into pedantic arguments on what constitutes a Simulator!
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Thanks again Paul, I'm sure it was a Mustang but for some reason had Sale in my head instead of Willy, will have to look into those.
That sounds a bit like it, Pinky - I'm sure the report mentioned bad bounces on a touch and go, prop hit the runway, but the pilot happily kept on going for a few more circuits. If I remember right, he may have even taxied in for a running change for someone else to get in and take it next, but the ground crew noticed something amiss luckily!
That sounds a bit like it, Pinky - I'm sure the report mentioned bad bounces on a touch and go, prop hit the runway, but the pilot happily kept on going for a few more circuits. If I remember right, he may have even taxied in for a running change for someone else to get in and take it next, but the ground crew noticed something amiss luckily!
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bad bounces on a touch and go, prop hit the runway, but the pilot happily kept on going for a few more circuits. If I remember right, he may have even taxied in for a running change for someone else to get in and take it next, but the ground crew noticed something amiss luckily!
That is exactly the same incident that GL related to me.
Many thanks in advance,
Tim
Tim
Another was a mid-air collision in early 1953 between a Mustang and a Vampire in cloud near Williamtown. No survivors.
Lastly, early 1953 at Williamtown, Sgt Lloyd Knight had an engine failure on his first Mustang solo. He forced landed on a beach near Morna Point. He was knocked unconscious and woke up with petrol over him. Minor injuries only.