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Old 29th Jan 2016, 05:46
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Plane down off Pt Lonsdale

News in Sydney is quoting plane left YMMB just before noon and went down closer to Pt Lonsdale??

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News coverage:

'Number of people' dead after Barwon Heads plane crash

Barwon Heads plane crash: Three people dead after light plane comes down off Victoria's Bellarine Peninsula - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Rumour has it is (was?) a PA28.... I don't think it'd be proper conduct by folks to disclose the rego....
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6pm news quoted a piper chieftain from YMMB???? Footage shows a piece of maroon and white spat being lifted out of the water?????? Guess in not a chieftain.
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ATSB Investigation URL here. It's a PA-28.
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Plane https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...11530360_o.jpg
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PA28-235 approaching 50 years of age.

Seriously damaged in a landing accident approx. 27 years ago.
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With very little (but some) information on what went on today, Im happy to bet my house on the fact that the aircraft had nothing to do with this accident..

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A Flightradar24 screenshot I saw showed several orbits (maybe as many as 6 or 7) before the end of the flight. That was after a run parallel to the beach. Could be significant if control failure is suspected?
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PA28-235 approaching 50 years of age.
Seriously damaged in a landing accident approx. 27 years ago
What's the relevance to this accident?
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NOJWOD, some earlier media outlets showed a flightradar shot of the search aircraft orbiting the search area. The accident aircraft did not appear to have a flight plan that showed on flightaware so I don't know why it would show up on flightradar24. Are you sure it was the accident aircraft you saw?
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That track along the beach plus orbits was definitely Hems 5 searching for the crash site.

PS: Looks like they have their new Augusta Heli versus the old Bell. I knew they were coming but thought it was late in 2016.
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The Aircraft was PXD, a Cherokee 235. There were 3 very experienced Pilots on board. The weather was **** ! I'll leave you to you're own conclusions, they were good mates of mine at Royal Vic Aero Club. Don and Dan were both rated Cirrus SR22 pilots, and had 20+ years experience. The old 186 seconds probably . . . . KC.
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Didn't 'Xantrix' in the previous, (now locked) thread quote the forecast as overcast at 600' in rain?

VFR?


I'll always remain amazed as to why some people attempt to fly VFR G.A. in crappy WX conditions in Australia. For the next day after the bad event is often benign.


(Please note that I'm not commenting specifically on the PXD accident.)

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My instructor always told me (George Campbell)

Every crash in bad weather is usually found the next day in perfect sunshine

This seems to be true so many times that i have lost count!
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More often than not, that is the case. We still haven't heard what the purpose or destination of yesterdays flight was, but its hard to imagine what could have been so important they felt compelled to head off in those conditions. Very sad. Condolences to those lost, and their families.


As an aside, has anyone read the sensationalist garbage relating to this on page 4 of todays Herald Sun..?
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As an aside, has anyone read the sensationalist garbage relating to this on page 4 of todays Herald Sun..?
People still read the Herald Sun?
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such a tradedgy
I see Oz Biggles said they were from RVAC. I've flown from there many a time. Are the names released yet? Were they instructors?
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They weren't instructors, just a few PPL mates in a private aircraft headed off for a long weekend on King Island, that ended tragically.

I first met Don and Dan some 15 years ago at my local airfield and the owner of the crash aircraft only more recently. They used to come in almost every week and hire the Cirrus SR22, often spending their entire weeks' pay packet, then later renting the SR20 on a regular basis. Rarely ever did you see them apart, so much so I used to call them Black and Decker because they stuck together like sh*t to a blanket. Great blokes and you would always see them at every fly-in and airshow not to mention almost every week for drinks at Royal Vic or BBQ's elsewhere for lunch. A sad loss to local aviation and whilst it's not much consolation as you often hear, they really did die whilst doing something that they truly loved. Aviation consumed their weekends for some 20? years. (I have not mentioned the owner or his partner as I did not know them)

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Sad to read your post Squawk 7700. Was the pilot IFR and current?
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I have no idea Sunfish, however I feel as though if I said no, that you would reply with a "what did they expect" comment so I'm glad I don't know.

You have also made the assumption that I know who was flying the aircraft when in fact there were 3 pilots onboard.
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