100th Anniversary of the 1919 Air Race
There seems to be some very serious entrants from what i have seen. Several EU companies/groups and a few from the USA as well. Mostly Hybrid and fuel cell as well as several in the fuel efficiency class as well.
The CASA contribution will be interesting??
My "little birdy" in the Glass House says that CASA will not recognise/permit "Experimental" aircraft from other countries in Australian airspace ---- always trying to be helpful!!.--- Normal C of A or stay away ---- There is a new slogan for you, to go with "We're not happy 'till your not happy"
The disgraceful way the Vimy replica was treated last time, was a precedent.
Of course, CASA looks the other way when the "Experimental" just happens to be a new model by Boeing or Airbus.
I really hate to be cynical, but ------???
Tootle pip!!
"says that CASA will not recognise/permit "Experimental" aircraft from other countries"
I don't know this is true, i have seen many experimental registered aircraft with OS registration come through the Gold Coast area on their way somewhere, lots of N numbered EXP Lancair's flying the South Pacific, all the Ericsson air cranes fighting fires are EXP
I imagine they could do an exemption if it was the case because lets face it, from entering Australian "Airspace" to land at Darwin doesn't really pose a real threat to anyone. ESPECIALLY if these experimentals had already proven themselves and covered 18,000 kms before they arrive.
I don't know this is true, i have seen many experimental registered aircraft with OS registration come through the Gold Coast area on their way somewhere, lots of N numbered EXP Lancair's flying the South Pacific, all the Ericsson air cranes fighting fires are EXP
I imagine they could do an exemption if it was the case because lets face it, from entering Australian "Airspace" to land at Darwin doesn't really pose a real threat to anyone. ESPECIALLY if these experimentals had already proven themselves and covered 18,000 kms before they arrive.
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I’m seeing 2019 but I can’t see a month that it kicks off. When does the challenge start?
Is there going to be a television series resulting from following the feats of this green technology challenge?
This is a great initiative that reinvents the concept of “challenge,” especially in the world of aviation.
Is there going to be a television series resulting from following the feats of this green technology challenge?
This is a great initiative that reinvents the concept of “challenge,” especially in the world of aviation.
"says that CASA will not recognise/permit "Experimental" aircraft from other countries"
I don't know this is true, i have seen many experimental registered aircraft with OS registration come through the Gold Coast area on their way somewhere, lots of N numbered EXP Lancair's flying the South Pacific, all the Ericsson air cranes fighting fires are EXP
I imagine they could do an exemption if it was the case because lets face it, from entering Australian "Airspace" to land at Darwin doesn't really pose a real threat to anyone. ESPECIALLY if these experimentals had already proven themselves and covered 18,000 kms before they arrive.
I don't know this is true, i have seen many experimental registered aircraft with OS registration come through the Gold Coast area on their way somewhere, lots of N numbered EXP Lancair's flying the South Pacific, all the Ericsson air cranes fighting fires are EXP
I imagine they could do an exemption if it was the case because lets face it, from entering Australian "Airspace" to land at Darwin doesn't really pose a real threat to anyone. ESPECIALLY if these experimentals had already proven themselves and covered 18,000 kms before they arrive.
Very interesting, I agree entirely with your second paragraph, but such practical realities are of little interest to the box ticking jobsworths of CASA. The Vimy replica made it to Australia, CAA/CASA (whichever it was at the time) would not let it fly "over a populace area", so it could not fulfill contractual sponsorship obligations.
The usual arrangement is that, for ICAO contracting states, only an ICAO Annex VIII C.of A. aeroplane has access to the relevant "freedoms of the air". For everything else, those responsible for the operation of an aircraft have to negotiate flight by flight individual approval to fly with the relevant authority of every state they pass through.
In the real world, unless you are ramp checked, who knows what certificate you are flying on., if you only come across the usual Customs and Immigration and Security wherever you are.
I would be fascinated to know whether these swarms of US Experimental Lancairs etc really have CASA specific approval, or it is a matter of ignorance and luck.
Tootle pip!!
PS: I have seen some pretty amazing things done on the basis of "don't ask, don't tell".
PS2: Ericsson do have a Type Certificate for the Skycrane, whether it is applicable to all their aircraft I do not know. What I do know is that CASA would not intervene in such a publicly high profile operation,they would be publicly and politically slaughtered.
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Just a quick update on the Great Air Race 2019.
I was fortunate enough to travel up to Darwin on Sunday and Monday for the 99 year celebrations and the countdown starting on 10 December 2019 for the event to finish in Darwin.
I can't share the total statistics until they are made public by the organisers but I can tell you this event is going to have a HUGE global reach of close to 1.5 billion people being exposed to information about the event, the aircraft and the participants.
Currently there are 26 teams entered with more expected to enter before the deadline and probably a few to drop away because they are not ready with their technology.
Attending the event on the weekend really does prove that the organisers have everything under control and along with support of many organisations and groups including the Northern Territory government this is going to be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for participants to leave London next November and arrive in Darwin on December 10, 2019.
As they say, "watch this space" and also their website for more information as it is released.... https://www.greatairrace.com.au/
I was fortunate enough to travel up to Darwin on Sunday and Monday for the 99 year celebrations and the countdown starting on 10 December 2019 for the event to finish in Darwin.
I can't share the total statistics until they are made public by the organisers but I can tell you this event is going to have a HUGE global reach of close to 1.5 billion people being exposed to information about the event, the aircraft and the participants.
Currently there are 26 teams entered with more expected to enter before the deadline and probably a few to drop away because they are not ready with their technology.
Attending the event on the weekend really does prove that the organisers have everything under control and along with support of many organisations and groups including the Northern Territory government this is going to be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for participants to leave London next November and arrive in Darwin on December 10, 2019.
As they say, "watch this space" and also their website for more information as it is released.... https://www.greatairrace.com.au/
The official press release has been made available. hopefully it has scanned and OCR'd correctly
2019 Great Air Race from London to Darwin, and Centenary Celebrations program launched on 99th Anniversary of Great Air Race landing in DarwinToday, December 10th 2018, marked the 99th anniversary of the first successful 18,000km flight from London to Darwin, undertaken by Sir Ross Smith, Sir Keith Smith, and crew members Wally Shiers and James Bennett in under 28 days. This flight marks one of the most significant moments in Australian and global history, as its success positioned Australia as a major player in worldwide air travel and trade and propelled the aviation industry into the modern age.
In Darwin today, organisers announced a number of global initiatives, partnerships, and events across 2019 to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Great Air Race.
Great Air Race Director Craig Sheridan said:
"We're proud to announce today, on the 99th anniversary of the historic 1919 Great Air Race landing right here in Darwin, that we will be holding a series of Centenary Celebrations throughout the world as we build up to our 2019 Great Air Race. Darwin and the Territory will be placed firmly on the world stage as we give the world an experience to remember!"
In reference to the 2019 Great Air Race Mr Sheridan said:
"We aim to celebrate a century of achievement by engineers, designers, and aircraft constructors as electric-powered aircraft are used to re-enact the London to Darwin Great Air Race in 2019. Taking off from London in November 2019, the Great Air Race field will take flight for a 28-day sojourn across four continents and over 21 stops. From the northern winter of Europe through to the heat and haze of the Middle East, across the Indian sub-continent and down into sub-tropical Asia, the eyes of the world will be on the Great Air Race and Darwin as Aviation history is made!"
The full program of initiatives and events launched today included Great Air Race Insider, an interactive engagement program for aviation fanatics and enthusiasts around the globe, a Celebration of Aviation and Air Show, the Great Air Race Centenary Ball, the Great Air Race Take Off in November 2019, and the Ceremonial Arrival of the Great Air Race and Great Air Race Festival in December 2019.
Several Strategic and Supporting Partners were announced at today's launch, including Global Digital Partner - Rakuten, Global Aviation Logistic Partner - 2Excel Broadsword, Accommodation Partner *Hilton Hotel and Hilton by Doubletree, Venue Partner—Northern Territory Airports, and Supporting Beverage Partner in Australia — Carlton & United Breweries.
The Great Air Race also extended a thank you to the Northern Territory Government for their involvement as a Strategic Partner of the 2019 Great Air Race Centenary Celebrations.
Present at today's launch were special guests Greek Consul General John Anictomatis, Indonesian Consul General Mohammad Hanifa, Timor-Leste Consul General Francisco Jose Felipe, and The Hon. Luke Gosling OAM MP, Member for Soloman. Great Air Race was also delighted to have Kylie Blackwell, the Great Great Niece of Wally Shiers in attendance, alongside Lauren Moss, MP Minister for Tourism and Culture representing the Northern Territory Government.
Minister Moss spoke to the history of the 1919 Great Air Race, and the excitement surrounding the 2019 Great Air Race Centenary Celebrations during today's launch:
"The 1919 Great Air Race put little-known Darwin on the world map — and we are set to do it again with the Centenary of this momentous, history-making event...
...It is exciting to launch the Centenary Year of the Great Air Race, and a suite of events that will bring the Territory's rich history, and our future potential, to the world stage."
A truly global event, the 2019 Great Air Race Centenary Celebrations will deliver an unparalleled level of reach to both aviation enthusiasts and a broader general interest audience via a comprehensive marketing program. Great Air Race Commercial Director Mat Bell went into further detail on this program during the launch:
"The Great Air Race provides a unique opportunity for our partners to reach and engage a significant international audience. A conservative forecast has placed the cumulative global reach of Great Air Race at 1.43 Billion impressions across digital, social media, tourism, traditional advertising, broadcast, and PR channels throughout the Great Air Race program...
...We have also secured an in-principle agreement with a production house for an international documentary that will see the Great Air Race Broadcast to over 250 million homes across 100 markets. Furthermore, as part of our Great Air Race Insider program we will also provide unique and instantaneous content to our audience via a dedicated platform hosted on the Great Air Race website. This will literally put our audience in the pilot's seat as teams embark on their global aviation adventure!"
Great Air Race historian Brian Kino was also present and spoke passionately about the Smith Brothers and crews' flight in 1919, and what the 2019 Great Air Race will mean for modern aviation:
"For its time, the 1919 Great Air Race was as significant to the world as man landing on the moon 50 years later. It ought to be recognised as one of the most significant moments in Australian history...
...The world stood in awe 99 years ago as the Smith brothers transformed flight and positioned Australia at the forefront of the aviation industry. Newspaper articles and headlines around the world lauded the Great Air Race and the world record flight, with the New York Times editorial of December 12 gushing, "Captain Ross Smith has done a wonderful thing for the prestige of the British Empire. He must be hailed as the foremost living aviator".
Brian added:
'The Great Air Race will do in 2019 what the Smith brothers did 99 years ago: it will generate a new age of global air travel".
General Manager of the Great Air Race, Milton O'Brien conducted a short interview with 2019 Great Air Race entrant Michael Coates. Coates, a pilot himself stated:
"This will be massive accomplishment for the global aviation industry. The 2019 Great Air Race flight path is easily completed by commercial aircraft on a daily basis, but do it in light fuel-efficient aircraft, hybrids, and battery powered aircraft in the proposed timeframe is nothing short of a miracle. Completing the 2019 Great Air Race will be akin to the first commercial airliner taking flight, and the advancement in aviation technology that follows will be unprecedented. I can't wait to be a part of it!"
Further details on the Centenary Celebrations are expected to be released in the coming months. Expressions of interest will remain open until February 2019 for anyone who would like to enter an aircraft in the 2019 Great Air Race.
There is also an opportunity for the entire Aviation industry to become involved, with several sponsorship and partnership opportunities available for the Great Air Race and the 2019 Great Air Race Centenary Celebrations.
For more information, please visit www.greatairrace.com.au Contacts for Great Air Race:
Milton O'Brien
General Manager
Inspire Strategic Solutions
[email protected]
Laura Sweetman
Event Coordinator
Inspire Strategic Solutions
[email protected]
2019 Great Air Race from London to Darwin, and Centenary Celebrations program launched on 99th Anniversary of Great Air Race landing in DarwinToday, December 10th 2018, marked the 99th anniversary of the first successful 18,000km flight from London to Darwin, undertaken by Sir Ross Smith, Sir Keith Smith, and crew members Wally Shiers and James Bennett in under 28 days. This flight marks one of the most significant moments in Australian and global history, as its success positioned Australia as a major player in worldwide air travel and trade and propelled the aviation industry into the modern age.
In Darwin today, organisers announced a number of global initiatives, partnerships, and events across 2019 to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Great Air Race.
Great Air Race Director Craig Sheridan said:
"We're proud to announce today, on the 99th anniversary of the historic 1919 Great Air Race landing right here in Darwin, that we will be holding a series of Centenary Celebrations throughout the world as we build up to our 2019 Great Air Race. Darwin and the Territory will be placed firmly on the world stage as we give the world an experience to remember!"
In reference to the 2019 Great Air Race Mr Sheridan said:
"We aim to celebrate a century of achievement by engineers, designers, and aircraft constructors as electric-powered aircraft are used to re-enact the London to Darwin Great Air Race in 2019. Taking off from London in November 2019, the Great Air Race field will take flight for a 28-day sojourn across four continents and over 21 stops. From the northern winter of Europe through to the heat and haze of the Middle East, across the Indian sub-continent and down into sub-tropical Asia, the eyes of the world will be on the Great Air Race and Darwin as Aviation history is made!"
The full program of initiatives and events launched today included Great Air Race Insider, an interactive engagement program for aviation fanatics and enthusiasts around the globe, a Celebration of Aviation and Air Show, the Great Air Race Centenary Ball, the Great Air Race Take Off in November 2019, and the Ceremonial Arrival of the Great Air Race and Great Air Race Festival in December 2019.
Several Strategic and Supporting Partners were announced at today's launch, including Global Digital Partner - Rakuten, Global Aviation Logistic Partner - 2Excel Broadsword, Accommodation Partner *Hilton Hotel and Hilton by Doubletree, Venue Partner—Northern Territory Airports, and Supporting Beverage Partner in Australia — Carlton & United Breweries.
The Great Air Race also extended a thank you to the Northern Territory Government for their involvement as a Strategic Partner of the 2019 Great Air Race Centenary Celebrations.
Present at today's launch were special guests Greek Consul General John Anictomatis, Indonesian Consul General Mohammad Hanifa, Timor-Leste Consul General Francisco Jose Felipe, and The Hon. Luke Gosling OAM MP, Member for Soloman. Great Air Race was also delighted to have Kylie Blackwell, the Great Great Niece of Wally Shiers in attendance, alongside Lauren Moss, MP Minister for Tourism and Culture representing the Northern Territory Government.
Minister Moss spoke to the history of the 1919 Great Air Race, and the excitement surrounding the 2019 Great Air Race Centenary Celebrations during today's launch:
"The 1919 Great Air Race put little-known Darwin on the world map — and we are set to do it again with the Centenary of this momentous, history-making event...
...It is exciting to launch the Centenary Year of the Great Air Race, and a suite of events that will bring the Territory's rich history, and our future potential, to the world stage."
A truly global event, the 2019 Great Air Race Centenary Celebrations will deliver an unparalleled level of reach to both aviation enthusiasts and a broader general interest audience via a comprehensive marketing program. Great Air Race Commercial Director Mat Bell went into further detail on this program during the launch:
"The Great Air Race provides a unique opportunity for our partners to reach and engage a significant international audience. A conservative forecast has placed the cumulative global reach of Great Air Race at 1.43 Billion impressions across digital, social media, tourism, traditional advertising, broadcast, and PR channels throughout the Great Air Race program...
...We have also secured an in-principle agreement with a production house for an international documentary that will see the Great Air Race Broadcast to over 250 million homes across 100 markets. Furthermore, as part of our Great Air Race Insider program we will also provide unique and instantaneous content to our audience via a dedicated platform hosted on the Great Air Race website. This will literally put our audience in the pilot's seat as teams embark on their global aviation adventure!"
Great Air Race historian Brian Kino was also present and spoke passionately about the Smith Brothers and crews' flight in 1919, and what the 2019 Great Air Race will mean for modern aviation:
"For its time, the 1919 Great Air Race was as significant to the world as man landing on the moon 50 years later. It ought to be recognised as one of the most significant moments in Australian history...
...The world stood in awe 99 years ago as the Smith brothers transformed flight and positioned Australia at the forefront of the aviation industry. Newspaper articles and headlines around the world lauded the Great Air Race and the world record flight, with the New York Times editorial of December 12 gushing, "Captain Ross Smith has done a wonderful thing for the prestige of the British Empire. He must be hailed as the foremost living aviator".
Brian added:
'The Great Air Race will do in 2019 what the Smith brothers did 99 years ago: it will generate a new age of global air travel".
General Manager of the Great Air Race, Milton O'Brien conducted a short interview with 2019 Great Air Race entrant Michael Coates. Coates, a pilot himself stated:
"This will be massive accomplishment for the global aviation industry. The 2019 Great Air Race flight path is easily completed by commercial aircraft on a daily basis, but do it in light fuel-efficient aircraft, hybrids, and battery powered aircraft in the proposed timeframe is nothing short of a miracle. Completing the 2019 Great Air Race will be akin to the first commercial airliner taking flight, and the advancement in aviation technology that follows will be unprecedented. I can't wait to be a part of it!"
Further details on the Centenary Celebrations are expected to be released in the coming months. Expressions of interest will remain open until February 2019 for anyone who would like to enter an aircraft in the 2019 Great Air Race.
There is also an opportunity for the entire Aviation industry to become involved, with several sponsorship and partnership opportunities available for the Great Air Race and the 2019 Great Air Race Centenary Celebrations.
For more information, please visit www.greatairrace.com.au Contacts for Great Air Race:
Milton O'Brien
General Manager
Inspire Strategic Solutions
[email protected]
Laura Sweetman
Event Coordinator
Inspire Strategic Solutions
[email protected]
Terrible news today as the event has been cancelled ! Dreams shattered.
To: Great Air Race — Stakeholders, Partners and Entrants
Re: GREAT AIR RACE
It is with deep regret that the organisers of the Great Air Race today announced that the proposed E-Race event between London and Darwin over November and December 2019 has been cancelled.
Following some 15 months of interaction and engagement with key Australian and international aviation and foreign affairs bodies, the organisers have been unable to secure agreements with the relevant government authorities to guarantee safe passage for all participants, organisers and officials through the proposed 25 ports and countries on the route, by the deadline of 15t April 2019, which leaves no option but to cancel the race.
With the planned route reflecting the amazing journey of Ross and Keith Smith and their crew in 1919, the organisers have been faced with many challenges, including dealing with a number of geo-political hot spots, that cannot be accessed by the Great Air Race without full government engagement, chaperoning and on-ground coordination, leaving the Great Air Race effectively with no where to go, except cancellation.
We would like to sincerely thank and recognize all of the stakeholders who have proactively supported the Great Air Race 2019 event concept, especially,
· the thirty three teams who have shared the vision and dream and officially entered.
· the aviation and industry stakeholders and suppliers who have been incredibly enthusiastic and supportive in building the event model.
· the Northern Territory government in Australia, who, in particular have supported the grand vision from the inception.
A principal goal of creating the Great Air Race 2019 event, was to bring to life and generate global recognition for the original Great Air Race and the remarkable achievements of Ross and Keith Smith and the crew in 1919, some 100 years ago. We encourage everyone who has been involved with the Great Air Race project or who has an interested in aviation history to maintain the passion and ensure that through social media and digital marketing, that these amazing feats will be celebrated on the 10th December 2019, the 100th Anniversary of the original Great Air Race.
The Directors and Staff
GREAT AIR RACE - 2019
To: Great Air Race — Stakeholders, Partners and Entrants
Re: GREAT AIR RACE
It is with deep regret that the organisers of the Great Air Race today announced that the proposed E-Race event between London and Darwin over November and December 2019 has been cancelled.
Following some 15 months of interaction and engagement with key Australian and international aviation and foreign affairs bodies, the organisers have been unable to secure agreements with the relevant government authorities to guarantee safe passage for all participants, organisers and officials through the proposed 25 ports and countries on the route, by the deadline of 15t April 2019, which leaves no option but to cancel the race.
With the planned route reflecting the amazing journey of Ross and Keith Smith and their crew in 1919, the organisers have been faced with many challenges, including dealing with a number of geo-political hot spots, that cannot be accessed by the Great Air Race without full government engagement, chaperoning and on-ground coordination, leaving the Great Air Race effectively with no where to go, except cancellation.
We would like to sincerely thank and recognize all of the stakeholders who have proactively supported the Great Air Race 2019 event concept, especially,
· the thirty three teams who have shared the vision and dream and officially entered.
· the aviation and industry stakeholders and suppliers who have been incredibly enthusiastic and supportive in building the event model.
· the Northern Territory government in Australia, who, in particular have supported the grand vision from the inception.
A principal goal of creating the Great Air Race 2019 event, was to bring to life and generate global recognition for the original Great Air Race and the remarkable achievements of Ross and Keith Smith and the crew in 1919, some 100 years ago. We encourage everyone who has been involved with the Great Air Race project or who has an interested in aviation history to maintain the passion and ensure that through social media and digital marketing, that these amazing feats will be celebrated on the 10th December 2019, the 100th Anniversary of the original Great Air Race.
The Directors and Staff
GREAT AIR RACE - 2019
"Peace On Earth And Goodwill to...….."
But not for a 'historic' air-race...…..
NOT EVEN.....!!!!
NOPE!!!!
But not for a 'historic' air-race...…..
NOT EVEN.....!!!!
NOPE!!!!
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The problem was the wide range of nationalities that had entered. If they were all British, all Australia or whatever, then no problems but when you have people from all countries entered this suddenly became an issue mixing in all the world nations into the event. If an EU citizen could overfly a country but a US citizen, or Israel citizen couldnt then it all became too hard and impossible for the event organisers.
I might still see if i can fly the course and do the celebration flight anyway if i can afford the overflight and landing fees. Its just a shame because many people invested a lot of money into this once in 100 year event and bureaucracy killed it cold.
I might still see if i can fly the course and do the celebration flight anyway if i can afford the overflight and landing fees. Its just a shame because many people invested a lot of money into this once in 100 year event and bureaucracy killed it cold.
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The problem was the wide range of nationalities that had entered. If they were all British, all Australia or whatever, then no problems but when you have people from all countries entered this suddenly became an issue mixing in all the world nations into the event. If an EU citizen could overfly a country but a US citizen, or Israel citizen couldnt then it all became too hard and impossible for the event organisers.
I might still see if i can fly the course and do the celebration flight anyway if i can afford the overflight and landing fees. Its just a shame because many people invested a lot of money into this once in 100 year event and bureaucracy killed it cold.
I might still see if i can fly the course and do the celebration flight anyway if i can afford the overflight and landing fees. Its just a shame because many people invested a lot of money into this once in 100 year event and bureaucracy killed it cold.
What a shame..the adventure and electric developments would have been interesting to see.
And no doubt lead to other things.
All is not lost, mcoates. Hava go. Adventure of a lifetime. You certainly wont regret it, the places you see, the people you meet. And the "teaching process" you get.
Compared with putting it all together, clearances and visas etc...the flying is the easy part.
Plan via the smaller places..bigger the city, worse the bureaucracy. altho for customs and immigration in bound and out bound may be unavoidable.
You would prob need a mogas engine as avgas no longer avbl at many places.
A 100th Anniversary Philatelic mail , sale of ,could help offset yr costs.
Worked for me at the Fiftieth. G-AOHF aka 'Air Race 50' by default...of de folk at some de stopovers.
And no doubt lead to other things.
All is not lost, mcoates. Hava go. Adventure of a lifetime. You certainly wont regret it, the places you see, the people you meet. And the "teaching process" you get.
Compared with putting it all together, clearances and visas etc...the flying is the easy part.
Plan via the smaller places..bigger the city, worse the bureaucracy. altho for customs and immigration in bound and out bound may be unavoidable.
You would prob need a mogas engine as avgas no longer avbl at many places.
A 100th Anniversary Philatelic mail , sale of ,could help offset yr costs.
Worked for me at the Fiftieth. G-AOHF aka 'Air Race 50' by default...of de folk at some de stopovers.
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With 7 months remaining before the race kickoff, before this event was cancelled, where there any advancements in technology from any entrants of “The great air race” that can be spoken about?
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I know of several developments which I cannot talk about. There is definitely a possibility for pure-electric flight in the near future, and hybrid will be straight forward. Needs to be a reward incentive and more folks will go.