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I also say good on her - but...
While there will be many challenges to be addressed, a latter-day Amy Johnson, she's not.
Admittedly though, Ms Johnson didn't have to cope with Robbies carelessly parked all over the airfields.
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While there will be many challenges to be addressed, a latter-day Amy Johnson, she's not.
Admittedly though, Ms Johnson didn't have to cope with Robbies carelessly parked all over the airfields.
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Al E Vator
Al E Vator,- you certainly seem a bitter type of person.
I have always readily given credit where credit is due. But I, and many I know don't like to be conned. This woman proved on the Africa trip that she is quite capable of deceit, by the way she repeatedly mentioned her 'solo' efforts, never acknowledging her highly experienced 'instructor' as a passenger, or getting the C208 to stooge along in front of her on several occasions so she could be sure of not getting lost. All the time having two moving map GPS's in the aircraft.
In comparison, Amy Johnson set off with no more than a handful of charts and enough quid notes (or greenbacks) to buy fuel along the way. No lights, no radio and no fuel gauge ! That was pure courage !
Now this lady has a backup aircraft complete with other pilots to do her flight planning, WX research, ground logistics, clearances & maintainance. And do you seriously think her route was not so carefully calculated as to be virtually risk free ??
Oh, and being born with a silver spoon in one's mouth certainly helps one to 'have a go' !
I have always readily given credit where credit is due. But I, and many I know don't like to be conned. This woman proved on the Africa trip that she is quite capable of deceit, by the way she repeatedly mentioned her 'solo' efforts, never acknowledging her highly experienced 'instructor' as a passenger, or getting the C208 to stooge along in front of her on several occasions so she could be sure of not getting lost. All the time having two moving map GPS's in the aircraft.
In comparison, Amy Johnson set off with no more than a handful of charts and enough quid notes (or greenbacks) to buy fuel along the way. No lights, no radio and no fuel gauge ! That was pure courage !
Now this lady has a backup aircraft complete with other pilots to do her flight planning, WX research, ground logistics, clearances & maintainance. And do you seriously think her route was not so carefully calculated as to be virtually risk free ??
Oh, and being born with a silver spoon in one's mouth certainly helps one to 'have a go' !
@ Al E. Vator,
"The thing is, as is so often the case, it's very easy for whiney little people who achieve very little to find some way of knocking those who do, or try to. That is what is so offensive about the likes of Sam Rutherford and cowl flap. Rather than wasting energy tapping into a keyboard finding ways to slag off at others why not get off your arse and actually do something significant? "
Sorry, but only seen this now (randomly).
Just to respond that I'm not a whiner, and I have actually achieved a few significant things in my life - please do a Google and inform yourself before casting dispersions.
Thanks! Sam.
"The thing is, as is so often the case, it's very easy for whiney little people who achieve very little to find some way of knocking those who do, or try to. That is what is so offensive about the likes of Sam Rutherford and cowl flap. Rather than wasting energy tapping into a keyboard finding ways to slag off at others why not get off your arse and actually do something significant? "
Sorry, but only seen this now (randomly).
Just to respond that I'm not a whiner, and I have actually achieved a few significant things in my life - please do a Google and inform yourself before casting dispersions.
Thanks! Sam.
That's one hell of a delayed response!
It's funny, before all this blew up, when TCT landed in Darwin, I remember watching the news and when the reporter went on about the solo bit and I wondered why there was another head in the aeroplane. I didn't give it another thought until it the apparent subterfuge was revealed.
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If you have the time, then have a look at the over 4000 posts at:
Tracey Curtis-Taylor (Merged threads)
Tracey Curtis-Taylor (Merged threads)
Unfortunately those seeking to stifle discussion and to close the above thread have found a willing accomplice.
The thread still makes interesting reading and is a warning to those blinded by the subjects words.
No doubt the subject will pop up again however the warning remains for all to see.
CC
The thread still makes interesting reading and is a warning to those blinded by the subjects words.
No doubt the subject will pop up again however the warning remains for all to see.
CC
Bird In A Biplane
It's funny, before all this blew up, when TCT landed in Darwin, I remember watching the news and when the reporter went on about the solo bit and I wondered why there was another head in the aeroplane. I didn't give it another thought until it the apparent subterfuge was revealed.
At least the trophy was rescinded.
The 2016 Article
Unfortunately those seeking to stifle discussion and to close the above thread have found a willing accomplice.
The thread still makes interesting reading and is a warning to those blinded by the subjects words.
No doubt the subject will pop up again however the warning remains for all to see.
CC
The thread still makes interesting reading and is a warning to those blinded by the subjects words.
No doubt the subject will pop up again however the warning remains for all to see.
CC
When she does no doubt a new thread will pop up too.
It would seem as though I was correct about madam 'popping up'.
There is a thread https://www.pprune.org/private-flyin...ation-agm.html running that suggests she is about to pop up again.
There is also a link https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/t...647ab8be2149d7 to an interestingly written article in which she suggests the whole thing is about those horrible men picking on her because she is a women.
When all else fails, trot out the sexist card.
CC
There is a thread https://www.pprune.org/private-flyin...ation-agm.html running that suggests she is about to pop up again.
There is also a link https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/t...647ab8be2149d7 to an interestingly written article in which she suggests the whole thing is about those horrible men picking on her because she is a women.
When all else fails, trot out the sexist card.
CC
Trust me there were plenty of female aviators fed up with her attitude as well, that she was some kind of trailblazer when she was just a cheat. Wearing RAF wings, pretending she had done it all solo, some stuff called "outreach" (whatever TF that is) etc. Most of us women have just been getting on with the job of flying aeroplanes, for the last 90 years or so without wanting or getting special treatment. The barrier to entry is money, if she wanted to help she could have set up some scholarships like the one I got that enabled me to make a career that I otherwise would never have been able to afford.
This was nothing other than a failed publicity stunt by a "walt". Comparing herself to Amy Johnson, someone who was entitled to the uniform and who died serving her country, is an insult to Amy, her ATA colleagues and the many fliers both men and women who achieved "firsts" in the early days of aviation and those who still are.
"Bird" is pretty derogatory, unless your first name is Nancy.
This was nothing other than a failed publicity stunt by a "walt". Comparing herself to Amy Johnson, someone who was entitled to the uniform and who died serving her country, is an insult to Amy, her ATA colleagues and the many fliers both men and women who achieved "firsts" in the early days of aviation and those who still are.
"Bird" is pretty derogatory, unless your first name is Nancy.
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The Times article is not even hiding the real reason behind the story. So much for independent journalism!
The very last line: Watch the trailer for the feature-length documentary Bird
So much for independent journalism!
The very last line: Watch the trailer for the feature-length documentary Bird
So much for independent journalism!
