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Old 23rd Sep 2015, 11:48
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CASA, Have your say..

https://haveyoursay.casa.gov.au/

should be interesting.
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Old 23rd Sep 2015, 15:54
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I wonder how long that will last?
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Old 23rd Sep 2015, 19:45
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Comments only accepted from registered users, way to avoid the negativity CASA.
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Old 23rd Sep 2015, 22:45
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A really genuine and inquisitive feedback process would protect the identities of respondents.

I seem to remember that one of the issues raised in a recent report was the fear of victimisation?

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Old 24th Sep 2015, 02:57
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SIMPLE

Question >>> CASA invites you to have your say and help us plan for a strong and safe Australian aviation future.

Answer >>> Employ industry professionals with a proven track records, seek overseas regularity experiences / rules & disband most the current unaccountable personal from within

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SAY NO TO THESE USELESS NEW RULES THAT ARE COSTING US JOBS & COUNTLESS AMOUNTS OF TIME / MONEY ???
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 08:33
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Hosted by Bang the Table Pty Ltd! Seriously?
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 10:48
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Have Your Say

I have already had my say, I sold the aeroplane, quit my job and now I am working in a different field. Good thing I had the sense to have other qualifications. Less pressure, triple the money.

NEVER EVER AGAIN WILL I ENTER INTO ANY COMMERCIAL ARRANGEMENT THAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH CASA

NEVER EVER AGAIN WILL I WORK FOR A LAME OR OWN AN AIRCRAFT THAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH LAMES

NEVER EVER AGAIN WILL I BE RAPED FOR THE COST OF A CERTIFIED PART


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Old 24th Sep 2015, 11:18
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I've had my say over and over and I'd rather stick a burnt stick in my eye than go through it again. I thought the Forsyth Review collated all that "have your say stuff". What more needs saying?
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 11:20
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My recollection is that a lot of individuals, representative organisations and companies had their say by making submissions to the Aviation Safety Regulatory Review (and, to a lesser extent, the Aviation Accident Investigation inquiry carried out by the Senate Committee). Some very well considered recommendations resulted.

If CASA is unwilling or unable to hear and understand the implications of those recommendations, in the context of circumstances in which they were made, CASA is - indeed - a complete basket case.

The interesting question is how long governments will continue to be willing to pay for what they know is a facade.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 23:15
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You of all people would know that 95% of voting Australians live in blissful innocence of what CASA is, or what it is doing - and not doing - to aviation.

No votes in it for politicians to rip into CASA, indeed, that would only unnecessarily scare the 95% of voters that live in blissful ignorance. That is why useless politicians like Anderson and Truss are never held accountable for their inaction.

And thus it will remain until we have a smoking crater.

Sadly the aviation and airline industry is so disjointed and fractured it will never create a common front to raise public awareness and question political inaction. The Australian industry is not helped by divisive organisations such as AOPA.

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Old 25th Sep 2015, 10:14
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experimental is the only way left to go for GA.. i am still a homebuilt owner, but will never own a factory built aircraft, its just not worth it, i have given up instructing, and fly purely for fun only,

My other half has given up on aviation altogether, and has now committed our funds to a medical degree and a career in medicine. just a few years ago we were considering starting, or buying a flying school. not now.


sad thing is, no one will give their opinions, and have their say, knowing that based on previous experiences, all the advice and feedback they get, means absolutely nothing, so, now with a new boss, they might actually be willing to listen, but will get next to nothing from the industry based on the past efforts.
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Old 25th Sep 2015, 22:50
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Ultralights, the Canberra zombies will come after experimental and RAA registrations as soon as they have finished off GA. CASA hates aviation except military and heavy Jet regular public transport.

The reason for this is not that hard to fathom, nor does it require conspiracy theories. In terms of general public passenger volume GA, RAA and experimental is negligible, yet we force on CASA the requirement to regulate a horde of unprofessional pilots and strange aircraft that operate in a completely different environment from heavies and military aircraft.

To put that another way, CASA is forced to consider a hugely disparate set of requirements when it regulates. Its rather like Canada where all official communications have to be in French as well as English, just to satisfy the French speakers in Quebec province.

To put that yet another way, if you were a regulator, wouldn't you prefer to deal with a few well healed airline operators only instead of having to also cater for a bunch of bogan amateurs in dirty jeans and moccasins?
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Old 25th Sep 2015, 23:13
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Put it another couple of ways would you Sunfish, I don't think it's quite clear enough yet.
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 00:19
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Gosh AOTW, you used to be such a critic of ad hominem posts.
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 08:28
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I wonder if CASA staff realise, that if they regulate GA out of existence, then quite a few of them will not be able to justify their jobs... and with government cost cutting, who knows, will the CASA payroll shrink in relation to their industry they are killing off?
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 23:01
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I wonder if CASA staff realise, that if they regulate GA out of existence, then quite a few of them will not be able to justify their jobs... and with government cost cutting, who knows, will the CASA payroll shrink in relation to their industry they are killing off?
CASA is not a Government Department, it is a statutory authority. It has greater flexibility in managing it's affairs.

So, if the Government cuts CASA's funding, logically fees imposed on the airline and aviation industry will increase to sustain the present level of incompetence.

There are benefits in operating a monopoly.
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 02:24
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Gosh AOTW, you used to be such a critic of ad hominem posts.
It's a reaction to the relentless negativity and wild speculation - you've got to laugh, basically.
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 06:00
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The lack of "relentless positivity" should tell you something.


Most recognize the onset of Stockholm syndrome.
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 09:37
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The lack of "relentless positivity" should tell you something.
Yep, it tells me the people who display it have given up.
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 12:05
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au contraire.
Failing to display any sort of positivity in the face of an industry genocide hardly rates an accusation of giving up. More, I would wager is a universal urge to go down with all guns blazing and telling the world about it.
An acceptance of the status quo is proof someone has surrendered to the thugs, been blackmailed into submission, or acting as CAsA "compliant" by being part of the system.
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