Busselton Airport to be expanded to cater for 'Direct Interstate Flights'....
You do have to wonder at the hypocrisy: prostrating themselves for a Qantas flying school when there is a complete ban in place for local flying school operations
Perth - Busselton has been tried numerous times over the years and failed, too close and fares too high. Especially since the new road went in meaning it can be driven in under 2.5 hours
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Hi Mr Poteroo,"
The Ch 7 news item, quoting the mayor, did state that the flights 'would' arrive at 0930 and depart at 1010......FWIW...…..
Let's face it...….to 'see' the Margaret River Region and environs, one NEEDS a car. So, arriving from ML, or wherever, a hire car is required, then the 'Region' accommodation, etc etc.
So, I would think it more 'economical' to fly into PER on the presumably cheaper airfare, then a hire car, enjoy the 2.5 hrs trip southbound, enjoy the holiday, and perhaps return to PER via the 'other' highway via Pinjarra, and make it a 'round' trip.
Anyway, I don't really care.....I'm driving down tomorra to see family.....'tis only 2.5 hrs......
Cheeerrsss….
The Ch 7 news item, quoting the mayor, did state that the flights 'would' arrive at 0930 and depart at 1010......FWIW...…..
Let's face it...….to 'see' the Margaret River Region and environs, one NEEDS a car. So, arriving from ML, or wherever, a hire car is required, then the 'Region' accommodation, etc etc.
So, I would think it more 'economical' to fly into PER on the presumably cheaper airfare, then a hire car, enjoy the 2.5 hrs trip southbound, enjoy the holiday, and perhaps return to PER via the 'other' highway via Pinjarra, and make it a 'round' trip.
Anyway, I don't really care.....I'm driving down tomorra to see family.....'tis only 2.5 hrs......
Cheeerrsss….
Last edited by Ex FSO GRIFFO; 1st Oct 2019 at 06:36.
Exactly and if the council wants this for a trial then they should fund any enhancements from local coffers not getting state government funds for something that might last 5 minutes.
F#ck the Busselton ratepayers.
Exactly and if the council wants this for a trial then they should fund any enhancements from local coffers not getting state government funds for something that might last 5 minutes.
Griffo, lob a few dollars in the letterbox as you go past, will ya?
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Aye Cap'n,
That's a ridiculous suggestion. I wuz gunna bite ya for the fuel.....just a few liters of 'A-1' out of the 'daily drain' would do it.....…
That's a ridiculous suggestion. I wuz gunna bite ya for the fuel.....just a few liters of 'A-1' out of the 'daily drain' would do it.....…
My perpetual homage to the hallowed "he who shall not be named", Griffo! 
2000L of kero coming up! Or could I convert it to noise in the vicinity of the airport? That should get the rates down a bit... no 'planes, no ongoing maintenance...
2000L of kero coming up! Or could I convert it to noise in the vicinity of the airport? That should get the rates down a bit... no 'planes, no ongoing maintenance...
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Yes be interesting to see what the loads are like. I guess it will last at least till the generous subsidies run out. Launch fares at $89 and they also have to build a terminal
Well as to loads.... the CEO of Jetstar said they expect ..."up to 60,000 people to use the service in the first three years".
My basic maths 60,000 divided by 156 weeks = 385 passengers a week. They are planning three flights a week so that is 128 passengers per flight. Averaged over three years. Good luck with that.
My basic maths 60,000 divided by 156 weeks = 385 passengers a week. They are planning three flights a week so that is 128 passengers per flight. Averaged over three years. Good luck with that.
Well as to loads.... the CEO of Jetstar said they expect ..."up to 60,000 people to use the service in the first three years".
My basic maths 60,000 divided by 156 weeks = 385 passengers a week. They are planning three flights a week so that is 128 passengers per flight. Averaged over three years. Good luck with that.
My basic maths 60,000 divided by 156 weeks = 385 passengers a week. They are planning three flights a week so that is 128 passengers per flight. Averaged over three years. Good luck with that.
At what is it 4 hours each way there would only want to be a handful of $89 seats!
Then again just get the A321XLRXB and do Margaret River direct Bordeaux, project Vino! I think I maybe onto something here! It’s a pet project name so it will work!
Busso car hire places will be happy...
Note - you can fly from the Swan river in Perth to Margaret River airport for $350, not cheap but a cool way to get there.
Back on topic, now how much is that subsidy?
Then again just get the A321XLRXB and do Margaret River direct Bordeaux, project Vino! I think I maybe onto something here! It’s a pet project name so it will work!
Busso car hire places will be happy...
Note - you can fly from the Swan river in Perth to Margaret River airport for $350, not cheap but a cool way to get there.
Back on topic, now how much is that subsidy?
The subsidy is around $6m-$8m for the 3 years according to an article on Australian Aviation. I looked at the launch flight and it’s $385 one way. Then all the flights over the first few weeks couldn’t see anything under $250 one way. Couldn’t see any $89 fares. Won’t be long before the locals are complaining about high airfares LoL
So much negativity. Great to see some expansion in loco point to point regional.
Wellcamp is another for opportunity. Bendigo just getting started. Mareeba is nearly finished its upgrade.
Wellcamp is another for opportunity. Bendigo just getting started. Mareeba is nearly finished its upgrade.
Correct and if a government, region, whatever wants to subsidise a service then it happens.
The question is will the service remain when the subsidy stops?
If the business model stacks up then no doubt it would continue, if not then as we have all seen what happens........
The question is will the service remain when the subsidy stops?
If the business model stacks up then no doubt it would continue, if not then as we have all seen what happens........
From the west looks like the squabble is on over terminal funding. Be interesting to see if they tart up the existng terminal rather than build on the new site, as it's a long way from the current terminal to the new bays they built (bussing?)
Warren-Blackwood MLA Terry Redman has decried the lack of funding to build Busselton Airport’s promised passenger terminal.
Confirmation Jetstar would start direct flights between Busselton and Melbourne next year was widely welcomed last week, with Regional Development Minister Alannah MacTiernan pledging $3.265 million to bring landing facilities up to scratch.
But it was not the commitment sought by the Capes MLA, nor members of the Busselton Airport Action Group, which warned before Friday’s announcement it did not want to see taxpayers’ money spent on a halfway solution.
Action group spokesman Steve Hayman said the Government had recanted its commitment to the full terminal build three times.
“We want answers from the Government on the airport construction,” he said. “Ms MacTiernan said if we secured an airline, they’d build the terminal.
“That’s happened.
“Now they’re saying ‘in three years time we’ll think about it’.”
Jet Adventures owner and action group member Peter Kalbfell said the issue should concern all South West residents.
“Ms MacTiernan is deliberately holding back this region by not releasing the funds,” he said.
Residents embraced news of the Busselton-to-Melbourne flights, and the action group stressed flights to Sydney and eventually Singapore were up in the air without a proper base.
“They can’t start negotiations until the terminal is constructed,” Mr Kalbfell said.
“Build it in the right spot. Where they want to build the temporary terminal is 500m from the carpark, so it’s in the wrong place.”
The group reiterated calls not to waste money, and to build the terminal — even in stages — at the final location.
Ms MacTiernan said the terminal would be considered in three years when “we’ve got a business case to justify (it)”.
The planned upgrades were “for a very modest price”. Future flights, and hopes still for a Qantas pilot academy, would prove the need for a terminal, she said.
“Fundamentally, this was not about a terminal,” Ms MacTiernan said. “This was about airline services.”
– and what we’ve managed to secure, working with our partners, is the service, a good quality service that can be accommodated in the existing terminal with a few minor upgrades.”
Mr Redman said it was time for the minister to release the $10 million set aside for the terminal.
“Minister MacTiernan committed to fund the terminal upgrade once a contract was signed with an airline,” he said. “However, she then shifted the goalposts and reneged on this promise.”
Vasse MLA Libby Mettam said the terminal was crucial, and the minister should stop referring to the three-year flights plan as a “trial”.
“Jetstar isn’t calling it a trial,” she said. “It’s now time for the Government to step up.”
Ms Mettam also said tourism figures released this week reiterated the need to plan for more visitors.
Warren-Blackwood MLA Terry Redman has decried the lack of funding to build Busselton Airport’s promised passenger terminal.
Confirmation Jetstar would start direct flights between Busselton and Melbourne next year was widely welcomed last week, with Regional Development Minister Alannah MacTiernan pledging $3.265 million to bring landing facilities up to scratch.
But it was not the commitment sought by the Capes MLA, nor members of the Busselton Airport Action Group, which warned before Friday’s announcement it did not want to see taxpayers’ money spent on a halfway solution.
Action group spokesman Steve Hayman said the Government had recanted its commitment to the full terminal build three times.
“We want answers from the Government on the airport construction,” he said. “Ms MacTiernan said if we secured an airline, they’d build the terminal.
“That’s happened.
“Now they’re saying ‘in three years time we’ll think about it’.”
Jet Adventures owner and action group member Peter Kalbfell said the issue should concern all South West residents.
“Ms MacTiernan is deliberately holding back this region by not releasing the funds,” he said.
Residents embraced news of the Busselton-to-Melbourne flights, and the action group stressed flights to Sydney and eventually Singapore were up in the air without a proper base.
“They can’t start negotiations until the terminal is constructed,” Mr Kalbfell said.
“Build it in the right spot. Where they want to build the temporary terminal is 500m from the carpark, so it’s in the wrong place.”
The group reiterated calls not to waste money, and to build the terminal — even in stages — at the final location.
Ms MacTiernan said the terminal would be considered in three years when “we’ve got a business case to justify (it)”.
The planned upgrades were “for a very modest price”. Future flights, and hopes still for a Qantas pilot academy, would prove the need for a terminal, she said.
“Fundamentally, this was not about a terminal,” Ms MacTiernan said. “This was about airline services.”
– and what we’ve managed to secure, working with our partners, is the service, a good quality service that can be accommodated in the existing terminal with a few minor upgrades.”
Mr Redman said it was time for the minister to release the $10 million set aside for the terminal.
“Minister MacTiernan committed to fund the terminal upgrade once a contract was signed with an airline,” he said. “However, she then shifted the goalposts and reneged on this promise.”
Vasse MLA Libby Mettam said the terminal was crucial, and the minister should stop referring to the three-year flights plan as a “trial”.
“Jetstar isn’t calling it a trial,” she said. “It’s now time for the Government to step up.”
Ms Mettam also said tourism figures released this week reiterated the need to plan for more visitors.
PoppaJo.. YMBA upgrade now 'complete' apart from a few major muck ups and required rectifications.
Taxiways say 5700 kg limit...not to worry ATRs parking up 20,000kg +?
Since CNS an hour away, no viability in any RPT thru here.
Cheaper parking so a place where aircraft come to die, or depart and crash after being left idle for years.
Or head off to PNG for....?? And the last one never came back.
RAAF might want to base here too, now that the Chinese are going to buld a major port at Daru., and this is not in the South China Sea either.
Bussrlton Council is no different from any other, bureaucrats therein see themselves as very smart business people and just love spending money...other peoples.
Taxiways say 5700 kg limit...not to worry ATRs parking up 20,000kg +?
Since CNS an hour away, no viability in any RPT thru here.
Cheaper parking so a place where aircraft come to die, or depart and crash after being left idle for years.
Or head off to PNG for....?? And the last one never came back.
RAAF might want to base here too, now that the Chinese are going to buld a major port at Daru., and this is not in the South China Sea either.
Bussrlton Council is no different from any other, bureaucrats therein see themselves as very smart business people and just love spending money...other peoples.
I see Coulson's c130( bomber 132) on it's way to it's new base in Busselton , I wonder how that will go down with the locals?
