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They would have to do something really bad as the APF make a good income off those 'pink cards'. They would rather ground the individuals like the Tandem Masters, DZ safety Officers or the Chief Instructors.
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Exactly my point!
The cash is more important to them than the safety of the customers and staff of the companies they watch over.
What is 'pretty bad'? Operating defect riddled airplanes? Dropping people through hail? Maiming someone for life? Killing someone?
The cash is more important to them than the safety of the customers and staff of the companies they watch over.
What is 'pretty bad'? Operating defect riddled airplanes? Dropping people through hail? Maiming someone for life? Killing someone?
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Can't complain about the condition of 'the beaches' aircraft. They are well maintained and he has a good team looking after them. He also asked me to go work for him but i declined the generous offer. Too old for that stress now.
Don't know how the other team play the maintenance game never been in their aircraft. Hard part is getting good high time pilots now. Most log hours then race for the airlines. Can't blame them either. I have noticed the standard of fun jumping decline over the years most old school types have moved out of the sport or prefer traveling to Europe or the US for the big ways or summer boogies.
I find the biggest problem is the young guns progress too fast and get instructor and TM ratings far too early and don't have the experience that high jump numbers give like experience in weather observation ect. Some things only come with time and hours. Attitude and animosity towards the 'old school' is also a big problem. Most young guns believe the sport started the week before they did their first jump. Some refuse advice and it has come back to bite them.
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Don't know how the other team play the maintenance game never been in their aircraft. Hard part is getting good high time pilots now. Most log hours then race for the airlines. Can't blame them either. I have noticed the standard of fun jumping decline over the years most old school types have moved out of the sport or prefer traveling to Europe or the US for the big ways or summer boogies.
I find the biggest problem is the young guns progress too fast and get instructor and TM ratings far too early and don't have the experience that high jump numbers give like experience in weather observation ect. Some things only come with time and hours. Attitude and animosity towards the 'old school' is also a big problem. Most young guns believe the sport started the week before they did their first jump. Some refuse advice and it has come back to bite them.
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YPJT, lol, yes, it somehow went from weather that was fine for drop, to hailstorms in the space of 40-50 seconds!
Fencehopper, I know of two people who have direct knowledge of the condition of 'the beaches' aircraft, and the sub standard nature of it.
Fencehopper, I know of two people who have direct knowledge of the condition of 'the beaches' aircraft, and the sub standard nature of it.
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Now, now. Let's not get caught up in the tall poppy syndrome. They pay their pilots, they even pay for required endorsements for their pilots. Their pilots are professionals & behave like it. Aircraft condition? You wish you could fly aircraft that are in the condition theirs are in.
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Several of their aircraft ( C208, Cresco, PAC and C182, Turbine C206) have all been used at the local DZ and all have been in good condition. In the 5 years there have been only two incidents. One was pilot induced and the other was a partial failure of the FCU.
Fencehopper, I agree the aircraft are in very good condition as they have a good team. I certainly know about the one which got damaged last year. Pilot induced, fortunately the firewall was not bent so was a straight forward repair.
I am sure RatsoreA will enlighten me with his statement.
I am sure RatsoreA will enlighten me with his statement.
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I've flown SDTB aircraft and I thought they were fastidious with their maintenance. In fact proper engine handling was emphasised and critiqued just as much if not more than the actual jump. They had aircraft on blocks waiting to get re-weighed and certified after making changes, and more LAMEs than I've ever seen in a single hangar.
The C208 they use near me was brand new when they bought it. Doesn't get a whole lot better.
The C208 they use near me was brand new when they bought it. Doesn't get a whole lot better.
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Looks like they're going it as a public company... Skydive the Beach announces $20m float | Illawarra Mercury
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Wow that's pretty ambitious. Palmer will be going woohoo. Wonder when Picton comes to the fold? If i was younger I'd take Bowie up on his job offer.
Heard that NMV is becoming a Super 'Van down in Moorabbin. 3 short flights according to flightaware today so maybe getting a shakedown before coming home. If not then it has been a good rumour.
Heard that NMV is becoming a Super 'Van down in Moorabbin. 3 short flights according to flightaware today so maybe getting a shakedown before coming home. If not then it has been a good rumour.
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Be this one i think.
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