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(Other than) toe brake types?

Old 10th Feb 2015, 09:41
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(Other than) toe brake types?

Hi All,
A question for the PP collective minds.
I'm interested to find any OZ and NZ registered types that do not use toe brakes.
From a search I found the early Tecman models used a park brake.
From memory, the nanchang and yak52. I vaguely remember something different about the Chipmunk brakes.
And obviously, anything with straight floats/skids
Any additions to the list would be most welcome.
Thanks in advance
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 09:42
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Jabirus have a hand/park brake.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 09:44
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Eurofox ultralights have a hand operated brake.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 09:45
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A proper(unmodified) Tiger Moth has no brake
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 09:45
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My Ka6crpe has a hand operated brake. Once the air brakes are fully open, moving the lever back further operates the wheel brake. Nice and simple.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 09:50
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Chippy has a hand brake. partial application of the hand brake + rudder deflection gives partial braking on that side if I remember correctly (it must be 10 years since I last flew one).

Auster has heel brakes but only a couple of hours and many moons ago, so scant memory of how effective they might have been. Certainly, not very effective once Bloggs has lost it and you have commenced swapping ends
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 09:59
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Austers had heel brakes. That's right, you pushed on the little brake pedals with your heels. Not too bad until one heel slipped off the tiny little bugger!! Still and all, the aircraft had a fail safe - the brakes were not at all effective so you didn't lose much when you slipped off one.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 10:15
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Old Cherokees? The '65 140 I fly doesn't have any toe brakes.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 10:26
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Liberty / Discovery XL2 has "finger" brakes. You need man hands to operate them. Later models have toe brakes.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 10:30
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Tripacer had a hand brake only, as did early Cherokees, Cessna Airmaster had dual handbrakes (only 4 hands required in a crosswind), Austers (and lots of others of that era) had heel brakes only, and Doves had a yoke-mounted lever that applied pneumatic pressure to the brake on the side of the deflected rudder.

Toe-brakes are a luxury, but I think they might just catch on.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 10:38
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Airtourer only has a handbrake.

I note that the original question was related to the use of toe brakes, not whether a type had them or not.

I don't use the toe brakes on a Pitts.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 12:33
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Went backwards in an Auster once into a steaming headwind, full flap, I think the Stall speed was about 28 knots?

Oh how I hated those heel brakes, but soft Pommy grass can be quite forgiving so I always looked like I knew what I was doing with my shiny new PPL and 45 hours!
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 12:35
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One of the Robins used as a glider tug at the Gliding centre in Hokkaido has only a handbrake.

So used to it now that I actually prefer flying that particular aircraft. It handles better as well!

Also once flew a Super cub that had heel brakes.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 12:48
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and Doves had a yoke-mounted lever that applied pneumatic pressure to the brake
As did many British aircraft.

Tootle pip!!
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 13:09
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and Doves had a yoke-mounted lever that applied pneumatic pressure to the brake
And it works a treat, the 104 Squadron Dove will literally turn on a shilling (or two bob bit for locals)
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 13:37
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The De Havilland Heron had pneumatic brakes. Pull a lever on the yoke and depress a rudder for brakes, I think.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 14:18
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 17:25
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Saw a brand new Super Cub at Narromine not that long ago with heel brakes.
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 20:23
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Agree...Super Cub was heel brakes...unusual at first but recall not even worrying or thinking about it after not many hours....very very long time ago
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Old 10th Feb 2015, 20:36
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The trusty old Tecnams also have a hand brake. Was interesting to get used to.
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