Please, someone in Perth gaffa-tape GT!
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JQ pax in QF club
That's hilarious. Good on the JQ pax for getting their money's worth.
Given the ever degrading morale of QF peeps in PER (slowly being replaced by JQ), I highly doubt the QF club staff would give a hoot.
GT can't be that important if he doesn't get Chairmans lounge access!
Given the ever degrading morale of QF peeps in PER (slowly being replaced by JQ), I highly doubt the QF club staff would give a hoot.
GT can't be that important if he doesn't get Chairmans lounge access!
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I seem to remember someone saying earlier on this thread (or another one) that he DOES have access to the Chairman's Lounge.
This is not surprising, considering all the 'good work' he does for the red tail rat.
This is not surprising, considering all the 'good work' he does for the red tail rat.
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer
FGD135 is suspected of being GT because of your second quote. Banter on an anonymous forum can hardly be compared with paid journalism requoted around the world. That needs to be correct.
When one reads or watches 'the news', we expected factual, accurate reporting in the time available. To wildly speculate is human, to print it is not journalism.
I've never subscribed to the idea that news needs to be dumbed down for the lowest common denominator. Educate them.
When one reads or watches 'the news', we expected factual, accurate reporting in the time available. To wildly speculate is human, to print it is not journalism.
I've never subscribed to the idea that news needs to be dumbed down for the lowest common denominator. Educate them.
The highest circulation newspapers in the world are all trashy tabloids.
Quality journalism, such as Four Corners, Foreign Correspondent and Dateline etc, have much lower audiences. Even the venerable ABC News rates consistently lower than 7 and 9. And they don't have even ads to compete with.
I'm not excusing trash journalism, but that's just how it is. Welcome to the real world of fast food and dumbed down facts. It's perhaps why the old adage states: "A fool and his money are soon parted."
On the subject of FGD vs GT, even a cursory glance at FGD's post history points to him being a pilot with real-world experience. He was born in 1964 - GT is much older - and claims to have started his aviation career in 1989, well after GT started his writing career.
None of that proves FGD is or was a commercial pilot, of course, but it doesn't prove he's GT, either (despite being an obvious "fan"). I'm not going to spend all arvo going through someone's post history, but perhaps if those claiming FGD and GT are one and the same care to do it themselves, they might be in a better position to judge.
Frankly, I don't care.
You are correct that "Banter on an anonymous forum can hardly be compared with paid journalism requoted around the world". Which is why I stated earlier that if people on these boards want to change what happens in the real world, get out there and change it! Don't just gripe about it on the prune.
For example, instead of writing letters to journos, phone them and have a friendly chat. Don't rub their noses in it - we all have our expertise. Make yourself known. Leave your contact details. Offer to help or go on the record whenever said journo needs some background or there's an incident.
Nurture those contacts and make the world a better place, one interview at a time.
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Journalist is a very loose term these days. I doubt GT is even a reporter. They are supposed to deal in facts, for journalists to make presentable for an editor, who determines if it is worthy of publishing. It may be that GT is a 'spin doctor' like a few others paid for favorable services in the public and private sector.
A pox on them all, and the awards, and the accreditations, and their bull**** story's. Oh, and a pox on people who pay to read their drivel. And a pox on their dogs.
Journalist. Bah!
A pox on them all, and the awards, and the accreditations, and their bull**** story's. Oh, and a pox on people who pay to read their drivel. And a pox on their dogs.
Journalist. Bah!
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VT,
A reasonable post.
I'm afraid, though that nurturing a contact is going to get you little more than a taxi-ride and 'tea and bikkies' in the Green Room.
The 'others', meanwhile, dance all the way to the bank.
A reasonable post.
I'm afraid, though that nurturing a contact is going to get you little more than a taxi-ride and 'tea and bikkies' in the Green Room.
The 'others', meanwhile, dance all the way to the bank.
Virtually There,
"People who do the right thing in this world rarely do it for the money, mate."
I agree.
But may I twist that to:
"People who do it (only) for the money, rarely do it for the right thing, mate."
"People who do the right thing in this world rarely do it for the money, mate."
I agree.
But may I twist that to:
"People who do it (only) for the money, rarely do it for the right thing, mate."
Man Bilong Balus long PNG
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"People who do the right thing in this world rarely do it for the money, mate."
"People who do it (only) for the money, rarely do it for the right thing, mate."
Sadly Virtually There and gerry111, I fear that both of you are quite correct.
One possibly bright note though; Out of all my immediate non aviation affiliated friends/acqaintances etc, I know of no-one who pays any attention to anything GT has to say on the subject. I suspect mainly because aviation itself is only a passing concern to them.
Compylot wrote:
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Toughen up princesses, you all sound like a bunch of stuck up whining schoolgirls.. "contact media watch or the press council...??"
Please...
I hope that I don't ever have the misfortune of flying with some of you pansies, "Oh Oh there's a bit of cloud up ahead request 50 miles right of route before I wet my knickers, and by the way lets get onto the press council about that monster GT.." you all need a bit of harden the you know what up.
But wait a minute last year he also wrote:
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I agree also with the OP the standard of journalism regarding the facts about an aviation incident is decidedly poor.
I've mentioned before that we pilots should put together a committee to oversee and endorse appropriately accurate technical reporting.
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I suggest that we draw together a body of aviation professionals, representing not just professional air crew but also Air Traffic Control, Engineers, Flight Attendants and Ground Handlers. (I have included ground handlers here because I am sick to death of the poor attempt many commercials make when including marshalers in some way to sell a product. Too often I see actors waving glow sicks around with absolutely no idea of the correct procedures and don't get me started on their lack of appropriate high visibility clothing or ASIC!)
So which is it Compylot?
Do you think that an industry "expert" should at least have some relevant industry experience and perhaps a modicum of technical knowledge to which their title alludes, or are you just trying to raise your perceived online profile by claiming some moral high ground by way of a sanctimonious rant.
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Toughen up princesses, you all sound like a bunch of stuck up whining schoolgirls.. "contact media watch or the press council...??"
Please...
I hope that I don't ever have the misfortune of flying with some of you pansies, "Oh Oh there's a bit of cloud up ahead request 50 miles right of route before I wet my knickers, and by the way lets get onto the press council about that monster GT.." you all need a bit of harden the you know what up.
But wait a minute last year he also wrote:
Quote:
I agree also with the OP the standard of journalism regarding the facts about an aviation incident is decidedly poor.
I've mentioned before that we pilots should put together a committee to oversee and endorse appropriately accurate technical reporting.
Quote:
I suggest that we draw together a body of aviation professionals, representing not just professional air crew but also Air Traffic Control, Engineers, Flight Attendants and Ground Handlers. (I have included ground handlers here because I am sick to death of the poor attempt many commercials make when including marshalers in some way to sell a product. Too often I see actors waving glow sicks around with absolutely no idea of the correct procedures and don't get me started on their lack of appropriate high visibility clothing or ASIC!)
So which is it Compylot?
Do you think that an industry "expert" should at least have some relevant industry experience and perhaps a modicum of technical knowledge to which their title alludes, or are you just trying to raise your perceived online profile by claiming some moral high ground by way of a sanctimonious rant.
I'm at a loss for words.
Never in my wildest dreams did I think that someone would use the search function to then use my own quotes, thoughts and ideas against me
I confess that at one stage in my career I was a little jaded at the media and their portrayal of professional flight crew. Heck, I was disappointed at their portrayal of ALL aviation professionals, including the hard working ground crew!
The tipping point for me (not long after I gained my ATPL) was seeing I think it was a Coles (or Bunnings or Woolies?) commercial, whereby there was a scene showing an aircraft marshaller waving his glow sticks around "apparently" in an attempt to marshal an aircraft into its bay. Any aviation professional would of seen that their signals were NOT that which is promulgated in the Jeppesen's.
Anyway that was the catalyst for my idea concerning the creation of "The Alliance of Aviation Professionals and Associates".
Perhaps, pyscho joe, it is pertinent that we may now revisit such an idea as the Alliance of Aviation Professionals and Associates and we could perhaps together be on the board to vet and provide our seal of approval on anything aviation related so that all aviation professionals can sleep well at night knowing that their industry, (nay their lively-hood!) is being reported on in an accurate, technical and factual way!
Wow, I think I can feel an email to Nick Xenophon coming on here!
And lots of thumbs up smiles
Any aviation professional would of seen that their signals were NOT that which is promulgated in the Jeppesen's.
Anyway, back to the subject - I think the thing that annoys me most with this 'expert' bizzo is that anyone who's happy for themselves to be tagged as 'Biggles' in an article should, in my world of right and wrong, be an experienced pilot; apparently not the case with old mate, although perhaps it's appropriate as Biggles was fictional...
Anyway, back to the subject - I think the thing that annoys me most with this 'expert' bizzo is that anyone who's happy for themselves to be tagged as 'Biggles' in an article should, in my world of right and wrong, be an experienced pilot; apparently not the case with old mate, although perhaps it's appropriate as Biggles was fictional...
And on to the important matter, Biggles...
I can see your point regarding the title of "Biggles" and the appropriateness of its usage on a layperson.
The burning question is how appropriate is it to bestow such a title as "Biggles" on one who has NOT completed the necessary licenses and qualifications?
At what point does one earn the right to be called "Biggles". Should it be a minimum CPL standard or higher? Is it possible to bestow the 'honorary' title of "Biggles" on someone who has not the necessary licenses and qualifications, but who has made a significant contribution to aviation?
These gentlemen, are the big questions.
The important questions.
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Compy, the really big question is why haven't you asked the mods to remove your very first post. The one about paxing in uniform.
Keep digging that hole.
GT does not bother nor interest me anymore.
I tune out if he pops up on TV and I skip by any Aus Aviation article that has his ByLine.
No sweat really.
Keep digging that hole.
GT does not bother nor interest me anymore.
I tune out if he pops up on TV and I skip by any Aus Aviation article that has his ByLine.
No sweat really.
Arm out the window has hit the nail on the head - complete fiction must be the common denominator with the name "biggles".
Here we have an aviation "expert", flabbergasted that jetstar passengers are raiding the Qantas fridge.
Isn't this the same guy who was touting the wonderful success and business acumen of Dixon and Joyce to start Jetstar? Wasn't the expense of Qantas sevice standards and particularly Qantas labour making Qantas profitability impossible? Wasn't jetstar to be Dixon and Joyce's master stroke, GT?
And now, here he is, having a cry because the exact sort of passenger Jetstar attracts is stealing his Brie cheese and liquorice lollies from the Qantas lounge.
Give me a fn break.
Here we have an aviation "expert", flabbergasted that jetstar passengers are raiding the Qantas fridge.
Isn't this the same guy who was touting the wonderful success and business acumen of Dixon and Joyce to start Jetstar? Wasn't the expense of Qantas sevice standards and particularly Qantas labour making Qantas profitability impossible? Wasn't jetstar to be Dixon and Joyce's master stroke, GT?
And now, here he is, having a cry because the exact sort of passenger Jetstar attracts is stealing his Brie cheese and liquorice lollies from the Qantas lounge.
Give me a fn break.
GT didn't ask for himself to be called Biggles..his journo mates gave him that, but what other name should they have given him...the Phantom, Popeye, Fred Flintstone, Buzz Lightyear, Action Man? But heh, course GT can fly, after all there's a photo of him in the B777 simulator (park brake on!!) looking around at the Cabin Attendant wanting to know if she (or him!) have brought in the brie and liquorice allsorts!! Time out....can the moderator, or preferably all of us, now just put a big full stop to this post...pleeeease and as Monty Python would say - "it's getting silly"!!!! 
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I beg to differ, P51.
Who do you think probably contributed that snippet in the West Australian?
One other thing that some people may not be aware of..
If a person is being paid to be interviewed in front of the cameras as an "Aviation Expert" (for example), such description cannot be given without the interviewee's expressed consent.
Anything else you'd like to know?
Who do you think probably contributed that snippet in the West Australian?
One other thing that some people may not be aware of..
If a person is being paid to be interviewed in front of the cameras as an "Aviation Expert" (for example), such description cannot be given without the interviewee's expressed consent.
Anything else you'd like to know?
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P51,
Whilst I think I see where you are coming from, please hope it stays open.
This thread is some of the best light entertainment I have read in some time. Something generally lacking in the world of pprune which generally seems to take itself a little too seriously in my opinion.
I think Comylot is on to it as well.
Also I do think GT is a bit full of it and if for some reason he found himself on a JQ ticket am darn sure he would be making the most of the Q club if he has access.
Whilst I think I see where you are coming from, please hope it stays open.
This thread is some of the best light entertainment I have read in some time. Something generally lacking in the world of pprune which generally seems to take itself a little too seriously in my opinion.
I think Comylot is on to it as well.
Also I do think GT is a bit full of it and if for some reason he found himself on a JQ ticket am darn sure he would be making the most of the Q club if he has access.
You'd think with the squillions he must be earning he (and his wife), would fix their chompers.
You can tell a lot about a person by oral hygiene. Might have been all those years as a peon working the ramp for mma.
He must use the same dentist as the Irishman.
You can tell a lot about a person by oral hygiene. Might have been all those years as a peon working the ramp for mma.
He must use the same dentist as the Irishman.
