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Old 22nd Dec 2014, 09:56
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Pilots in Cabinet

Should be more of these people.

Now if only Aviation was a dedicated ministerial portfolio....


Sussan Ley: From punk rocker to health minister
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Good stuff!! And what a fantastic background in her upbringing to where she is today. Onwards and upwards.

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Spent many years trying to persuade all and sundry that a Minister for Aviation is what is needed. For too long Ministers have had mixed portfolios.
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Don't forget, she's still a politician
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Certainly an impressive and diverse CV
but why did she have to spoil it with
the addition of " politician" ?
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Wow, an actual achiever, who has been out there, aspired to something in the real world, made it happen, --unlike the majority on the other side, who moved from student activism>trade union official>safe lower house/senate . Of course, the ones in power at the moment who went young liberals>someones electoral office>safe lower house seat/senate aren't worthy of respect, either.
More power to her, I hopes she makes a good go of it.
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More power to her, I hopes she makes a good go of it.
Likewise. It would also be even better if eventually she was appointed as The Minister for Civil Aviation! A position which did exist quite some time ago IIRC.

Oh, and have as her staffers only people with professional experience in the Industry!

I can dream, can't I?
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Someone who as actually done hard yards... all respect..
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Ranmar your ignorance and bias is astonishing.

'They' are all the same. There are workers on the Left and Right (and even the middle!) I know this is a slight thread drift, but I wish people could look past the 'Party' and look at the issues and the people, and not just agree with one party, merely because they are 'Liberal, Labor or Other'.

To state that only Labor (in this case) have had an 'easy ride' (student-union-politics) is a fallacy and one of the problems with the Australian voter.

The following are Wikipedia entries (must be true!), for 'your' mob. Some seem to have had a pretty 'easy' run, without actually 'getting out there' before entering politics.

I'm sure a 2 second search for Labor members would reveal a similar outcome.

Abbott was born in London, England, to an Australian mother and English father, and emigrated to Sydney with his parents in 1960. Prior to entering parliament, he studied for a Bachelor of Economics and a Bachelor of Laws at the University of Sydney, and later for a Master of Arts in Philosophy, Politics and Economics as a Rhodes Scholar at The Queen's College, Oxford.
After graduating, Abbott trained as a Roman Catholic seminarian, later working as a journalist, manager and political advisor. In 1992, he was appointed director of Australians for Constitutional Monarchy, a position he held until his election to parliament in 1994. He was first appointed to Cabinet following the 1998 election, as part of the Second Howard Ministry, becoming Minister for Employment, Workplace Relations and Small Business.

Julie Bishop was born in Lobethal, South Australia, growing up on a cherry farm in the Adelaide Hills.[5][6] She was educated at St Peter's Collegiate Girls' School and later at the University of Adelaide, where she studied law, graduating in 1978. Subsequently she practised as a barrister and solicitor at the Adelaide law firm Mangan, Ey & Bishop, where she was a partner.

Cory Bernardi, whose father, Leon, was a trade unionist and a staunch Labor supporter,[4] was born and raised in Adelaide and attended Prince Alfred College in Kent Town, South Australia.[4] He went on to undertake a business and management course at Adelaide Institute of Technology before winning a scholarship and furthering his rowing career at the Australian Institute of Sport in 1989.[4][5]

Bernardi represented Australia in the sport of rowing in 1988 and 1989. In doing so at the age of 18, he is the youngest person to have represented Australia in the open heavyweight men's division of rowing. Bernardi, rowing in a Mercantile Rowing Club eight, won the Ladies' Challenge Plate at the Henley Royal Regatta in England.[6] He also competed at the 1989 World Rowing Championships in Bled (in what was then Yugoslavia and is now the Republic of Slovenia), as part of the coxless four, and came tenth.[7] Bernardi suffered a back injury later that same year which effectively ended his rowing career.[

Morrison was educated at Sydney Boys High School, where he completed his Higher School Certificate, and other state schools. He went on to the University of New South Wales, where he received an honours degree in applied science, studying economics and geography.


Before entering parliament, Morrison was the managing director of Tourism Australia[4] and NSW State Director of the Liberal Party of Australia from 2000 to 2004. Before this, he served in senior executive roles in the tourism and property sector in Australia and New Zealand, including the Property Council of Australia and the Tourism and Transport Forum.
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Shorten born in Melbourne, where his father, William Robert Shorten—from Tyneside, England—was a waterside worker and union official. His mother, Ann Shorten (née McGrath) was of Irish ancestry,[2] was a lawyer and university academic.[3] He was educated at Xavier College and Monash University, where he graduated with a Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Laws. During his time at Monash, Shorten was a founding member of Young Labor Network, a right-wing Labor youth caucus. He also gained a Master of Business Administration from the Melbourne Business School.[4][5]

Shorten became active in the Labor Party]while still a student, working part-time for federal Labor Minister Gareth Evans and state Labor Minister Neil Pope. He also worked for Bill Landeryou, Minister and later Leader of the Government in the Victorian Legislative Council during the Kirner Labor Government. After graduating, he worked for 18 months as a lawyer for Maurice Blackburn Cashman, a firm which generated a large portion of its income representing trade unions.

Albanese was born in the inner Sydney suburb of Camperdown and was educated at St Joseph's Primary School in Camperdown and St Mary's Cathedral College in Sydney.[2] He was raised by a single mother and said she raised him with "three great faiths: the Catholic Church, the South Sydney Football Club and Labor", adding that he had always remained faithful to the latter two.[3]

After finishing school, he worked for the Commonwealth Bank for two years before studying economics at the University of Sydney.[4] There he became involved in student politics and was elected to the Students' Representative Council.[5] It was also where he started his rise as a key player in the left faction of the Labor Party.[6]

Albanese completed his degree and took on the role of research officer to the then Minister for Local Government and Administrative Services, Tom Uren, who was to become something of a mentor to him.[7] In 1989, the position of Assistant General Secretary of the New South Wales branch of the Australian Labor Party became vacant when John Faulkner was chosen for a Senate seat and Albanese took on the role for the next six years. In 1995, he returned to policy work as a senior adviser to the Premier of New South Wales, Bob Carr.[4]

my ignorance must also be astonishing
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Obviously, it is. If you read my post, "I'm sure a 2 second search for Labor members would reveal a similar outcome"

My point is thus proven. No side has a monopoly on 'workers' and 'academic/union/easy street' members. To say otherwise proves a bias and (IMO) an ignorance of ISSUES. Voting for a party just because they are 'your' party is sheer laziness and or ignorance.

I love 'the other side' argument. The 'other side' is always wrong/incompetent/stupid'.

I'm just suggesting people don't fall for that argument.

The new minister might very well be a good Minister, and I will judge her on her merits, not by her Party.
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What? Ex punk rocker, she won't fit in with those pencil neck geeks.

Besides, I thought Abbott would have told her to go home and do some ironing and celebrate that it does not cost as much anymore due to no more carbon tax?


"Ironing done, home budget balanced, . . oops, over cooked the planet"
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Put a lot of thought into that useless post did you Boner?
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Obviously none of you are from her electorate??? Then again I suppose she got elected. Wonders never cease.

Time will reveal all.

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Having met Sussan Ley, I find her most impressive and hope this will be the start of her promotion within Cabinet. She has a good mix of the bush having worked as a Jillaroo in Western Queensland and currently living on a rural property. Her flying and ATC career gives her good comprehension of the problems and issues facing aviation in Australia.

I wish her well. In the longer term I believe Australian aviation may benefit from her skills and knowledge in Cabinet.
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