CL604 Cobham SAR jobs

[FMTAfterburn]

Originally Posted by wasathangi

FMTAfterburn....Are you tech crew?Attachment 503

Wasathingi, a question to your question - where's the radar and FLIR?, perhaps this is an old photo

[Dashunder]

Originally Posted by FMTAfterburn

Wasathingi, a question to your question - where's the radar and FLIR?, perhaps this is an old photo

What's next, no ability to drop a diesel dewatering pump, apparently so!!

[Capn Bloggs]

What's next, no ability to drop a diesel dewatering pump, apparently so!!

I wonder who decided that? "Nah, forget that, I want a nice shiny jet to do SAR in".

How about you lot get the task requirements/tender document/contract/etc etc and find out what it/they actually require before criticising what appears to be being (not) provided compared to the old deal?

[FMTAfterburn]

Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs

I wonder who decided that? "Nah, forget that, I want a nice shiny jet to do SAR in".

How about you lot get the task requirements/tender document/contract/etc etc and find out what it/they actually require before criticising what appears to be being (not) provided compared to the old deal?

Cobham contract says it will drop all the standard items as tested and approved by AMSA, this is another variation away from that contract. Other items will not be droppable also. Cobham just haven't fessed up to it yet, one at a time until they try and swap a dash 8 or two in which although less capable does have a reasonable size door. Fixed wing SAR is about finding survivors and keeping them alive. You need an array of items to be dropped accurately

[Badengo]

These will all be down for major maintenance pretty quick due to have to record 10 cycles for every 1! Haha woops.

[Capt Claret]

Cobham contract says it will drop all the standard items as tested and approved by AMSA, this is another variation away from that contract. Other items will not be droppable also. Cobham just haven't fessed up to it yet, one at a time until they try and swap a dash 8 or two in which although less capable does have a reasonable size door

Oh well, the ensuing court case when Cobham are sued for breach of contract should be interesting, hey! Any chance one of you folks who seem to know what Cobham will or won't do before its done might care to share the winning lotto numbers?

[PLovett]

I understand, very 3rd hand, that a young man was offered the FO position on the 604 based at Essendon. He, for reasons unknown, had wanted a seat on the Dash 8 so he requested that. Was told that those positions were filled and therefore unavailable. When he then said, oh well the 604 it is, he was told that as he had expressed a wish for something else he was no longer acceptable for the 604 and therefore was rejected.

[RENURPP]

If I was a betting man I would say the legal people are probably a little ahead of a bunch of disgruntled pilots. What is the definition of "standard equipment" would be my first thought.
Again a bunch of disgruntled pilots who possibly base their objections on rumour and Il will think they are smarter than all the management at AMSA and one of the larger companies that deal with this type of operation world wide.

Plovett, he learnt a lesson then didn't he?

[FMTAfterburn]

Not trying to prove anything. But I am saying the full service will not be ready on time, or budget, and the aircraft type is a backward step.

[FMTAfterburn]

Service delivery

Well one week to go before the unique SAR jet contract starts in Perth.
I will be curious to see how Amsa are going to mitigate the lack of capability to the seafaring and outback public when this partially compliant aircraft comes " online". Although it is not unusual to have some issues unresolved with a new and complicated aircraft on contract, there will be deficiencies which will take some time to resolve. In the meantime keep your tinny in the shed.

[thorn bird]

Not to worry there's always to good old local aeroclub to muster out there as first responders......??...Oh sorry, forgot! the government regulated them out of business.

[Dashunder]

Originally Posted by FMTAfterburn

Well one week to go before the unique SAR jet contract starts in Perth.
I will be curious to see how Amsa are going to mitigate the lack of capability to the seafaring and outback public when this partially compliant aircraft comes " online". Although it is not unusual to have some issues unresolved with a new and complicated aircraft on contract, there will be deficiencies which will take some time to resolve. In the meantime keep your tinny in the shed.

Online in a week, not what I am hearing.

[josephfeatherweight]

Re-advertising for captains in Perth and Essendon. One needs to take a long, introspective look at oneself if one can't crew a 604 based in Melbourne!!

[Capt Claret]

Where do you get "can't crew" from?

[josephfeatherweight]

This job was advertised around 12 months ago. Now, they have re-advertised for captains for the Perth and Melbourne bases. So, it seems that they "can't crew" these positions. Simple?

[RENURPP]

OR maybe back "around 12 months ago" they advertised and employed sufficient crew to start up the contract however leave the final recruitment until closer to the contract start date. Saves $$$$. Why have all crews employed on day 1 sitting around waiting?

They will get crew, I have no doubt about that. Not me on that sort of money but you can bet lots of dollars that there will be pilots out there happy to accept a job.

[josephfeatherweight]

Maybe.....

[Dashunder]

Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight

Maybe.....

And that MAYBE is very big and growing bigger by the day.

Proof will be in the pudding next week when AMSA expect Perth to have full coverage.

[FMTAfterburn]

Sar jet unavailable for tasking, and I hear that the Dornier leaves Perth tomorrow. Does anyone else have a problem with this?

[Dashunder]

Originally Posted by FMTAfterburn

Sar jet unavailable for tasking, and I hear that the Dornier leaves Perth tomorrow. Does anyone else have a problem with this?

The word is they don't have their AOC either