Man taxis to the Newman pub
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Roll eyes all you want, but they still don't need an ATPL!
Point is, a PPL would not have permitted him to drive down the Main Street in a wingless Aircraft anyway.
Point is, a PPL would not have permitted him to drive down the Main Street in a wingless Aircraft anyway.
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Leaves me wondering what place there will be in Australia for flying cars which seem to be on the verge of being launched, so to speak.
I won't mention float planes in case they are made illegal, too!
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I won't mention float planes in case they are made illegal, too!
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CAR's 1988 DEFINITION OF AN AEROPLANE:
Based on this definition, it is not an aeroplane because it is not in flight.
aeroplane means a power-driven heavier-than-air aircraft deriving its lift in flight chiefly from aerodynamic reactions on surfaces remaining fixed under given conditions of flight, but does not include a power-assisted sailplane.
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Paul,
The definition really should have read "which derives its lift.."
As it was, it was simply an unregistered vehicle.
Having said that, the owner would have already been known as the 'village idiot' in other respects.
The definition really should have read "which derives its lift.."
As it was, it was simply an unregistered vehicle.
Having said that, the owner would have already been known as the 'village idiot' in other respects.
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Who said it is not registered with CASA? it is not an annual fee it needs to be cancelled. For that matter insurance too.
It is very possible it is both (not road registered I assume).
I hope the Authorities take it as a fun thing as possibly intended, but I doubt that. That said I hope it is not CASA register, penalties much higher (taxi approval/running engine x distance from building/ no STC or workpack entry for fuel system mod).
It is very possible it is both (not road registered I assume).
I hope the Authorities take it as a fun thing as possibly intended, but I doubt that. That said I hope it is not CASA register, penalties much higher (taxi approval/running engine x distance from building/ no STC or workpack entry for fuel system mod).
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The point I was trying to make was the bloke has bought an incomplete/not airworthy aircraft and apparently intends to get it airworthy.
If such is the case, and he wants to fly it (or even just taxi it home) I would expect he would have some aeronautical skills and training, along the lines of a PPL at least.
However, I guess he could always bolt it all together with no knowledge, no training, and no skills - and then go for his LAME ticket and his PPL, all at once.
I await the court appearance with interest, and I would like to see the beaks comments and opinion on the offender.
I strongly suspect this bloke is one of those blokes that we all know, who manage to do everything wrong first, before they find out the right way to go about it.
If such is the case, and he wants to fly it (or even just taxi it home) I would expect he would have some aeronautical skills and training, along the lines of a PPL at least.
However, I guess he could always bolt it all together with no knowledge, no training, and no skills - and then go for his LAME ticket and his PPL, all at once.
I await the court appearance with interest, and I would like to see the beaks comments and opinion on the offender.
I strongly suspect this bloke is one of those blokes that we all know, who manage to do everything wrong first, before they find out the right way to go about it.
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I strongly suspect this bloke is one of those blokes that we all know, who manage to do everything wrong first, before they find out the right way to go about it.
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Just checked it ,£2780 sterling 
That's a lot of money for a "bit of a laugh!" That's about two month's gross wage for a minimum-pay worker in the UK Somewhat excessive for that sort of misdemeanour in an outback town....a weeks wage would have been more appropriate, IMHO.
This has somewhat altered my view of the Aussie "laid-back" culture.
That's a lot of money for a "bit of a laugh!" That's about two month's gross wage for a minimum-pay worker in the UK Somewhat excessive for that sort of misdemeanour in an outback town....a weeks wage would have been more appropriate, IMHO.This has somewhat altered my view of the Aussie "laid-back" culture.
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Clearly the magistrate was a city man and didn't understand the law was different in remote areas.
Not as harsh as transportation for a loaf of bread, though
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$5k is probably not much more than a week's wages there, anyway
Not as harsh as transportation for a loaf of bread, though
Kaz
$5k is probably not much more than a week's wages there, anyway
Let's hope that he appeals the criminal fine, Kaz?
(And importantly, potentially more cash for his legal counsel.)
Whilst he did a very stupid and potentially dangerous thing, I'm not sure that the punishment really fits the crime. No one was hurt, after all?
And I rather doubt that a "deterrent" punishment was really needed!
(And importantly, potentially more cash for his legal counsel.)
Whilst he did a very stupid and potentially dangerous thing, I'm not sure that the punishment really fits the crime. No one was hurt, after all?
And I rather doubt that a "deterrent" punishment was really needed!
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The fine was severe because the offender was charged under the Criminal Code, not the Traffic Act - specifically Chapter XXVII, section 266 - which clearly outlines that anyone in charge of a "dangerous thing" - whether living or inanimate, and whether moving or stationary - and which definition includes a source of ignition or fire - is held totally responsible for any act endangering the health and safety of anyone near the "dangerous thing".
CRIMINAL CODE ACT COMPILATION ACT 1913 - NOTES
If he had been charged under the Traffic Act with a traffic offence, or offences, the penalty/penalties would have been less.
However, he wasn't driving an unroadworthy, road-going vehicle - he was driving an aircraft on a public road.
IMHO, the Police and the Magistrate have viewed his stupid act with the gravity that is applied to serious aviation offences and criminal offences, and have applied the appropriate penalty.
If you view his offence as a trivial one and the penalty as being too severe, then you fail to understand the gravity with which aviation offences are viewed in Australia.
CRIMINAL CODE ACT COMPILATION ACT 1913 - NOTES
If he had been charged under the Traffic Act with a traffic offence, or offences, the penalty/penalties would have been less.
However, he wasn't driving an unroadworthy, road-going vehicle - he was driving an aircraft on a public road.
IMHO, the Police and the Magistrate have viewed his stupid act with the gravity that is applied to serious aviation offences and criminal offences, and have applied the appropriate penalty.
If you view his offence as a trivial one and the penalty as being too severe, then you fail to understand the gravity with which aviation offences are viewed in Australia.
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onetrack,
Without its wings it can't be defined as an aircraft or aeroplane, I'm given to understand.
As stupid as the act was, to anybody who's spent any time in the 'bush', as cockney steve observed much earlier, the response was
'a heavy-handed over reaction'.
Without its wings it can't be defined as an aircraft or aeroplane, I'm given to understand.
As stupid as the act was, to anybody who's spent any time in the 'bush', as cockney steve observed much earlier, the response was
'a heavy-handed over reaction'.
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As stupid as the act was, to anybody who's spent any time in the 'bush'....
I agree though, he didn't get what he deserved........he should have spent a little bit of time playing Momee or Dadee in the Big House!!!
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Flaws me that the world has gone mad!
It's more about being seen to be doing something to protect society than it actually is.
Am glad I grew up in a time when fun was a way of life not something we'll only see in some amusement park!
Wmk2
It's more about being seen to be doing something to protect society than it actually is.
Am glad I grew up in a time when fun was a way of life not something we'll only see in some amusement park!
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I'm lived in the "bush" aplenty, and I have a fairly lenient view of pranks and antics, and what I regard as a good sense of humour.
However, this event didn't occur in the "bush", it occurred in a sizeable W.A. town, with a population in excess of 4000 people, and it's properly classed as an urban environment.
Try driving your wingless aircraft up the streets of your local town and see how you go.
The reason why we have so much regulation and "nannying" today, is because too many fools think dangerous and illegal stunts that are carried out, putting others at risk, are funny.
I reckon this bloke is the sort of bloke who would reckon it's fun to dive-bomb cows, like the bloke did South of PER many years ago. We all know what happened in that incident.
However, this event didn't occur in the "bush", it occurred in a sizeable W.A. town, with a population in excess of 4000 people, and it's properly classed as an urban environment.
Try driving your wingless aircraft up the streets of your local town and see how you go.
The reason why we have so much regulation and "nannying" today, is because too many fools think dangerous and illegal stunts that are carried out, putting others at risk, are funny.
I reckon this bloke is the sort of bloke who would reckon it's fun to dive-bomb cows, like the bloke did South of PER many years ago. We all know what happened in that incident.
