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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 21:19
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In fact, the latter is essential. The former: not so.
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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 22:12
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Before we get moved or merged.

I think we need to be very, very clear from the outset that none of the comment made on PPRuNe is against Skidmore – the bloke. Obviously, the man is respected, liked, of proven intelligence and capable; AVM qualifications do not come off the top of a cornflake box (not in Australia at least). It must be understood that what comes down the pipeline is not personal – it goes with the job.

Sunny is simply pointing out that part of the job which stultifies a normal, rational human being into a 'nodding donkey'; your man needs to grasp this simple fact. Mountains of memo's, reports, meetings, approvals, whispers, advice, fluttering eyelashes and free ice-cream to wade through before morning tea. Chat's with the MM crew for "guidance and advice" before lunch: afternoon tea with the minuscule which leaves a whole 15 minutes to actually do something useful. By day two there will a pile of industry requests a mile high – which need to be subject to the endless machinations of corporate affairs and that's all before the LSD begin their rice bowl protection campaign. Then there's the 'management wabbits' to listen to, followed by the frontal lobotomy first team, followed by the spanner twisters 'administrative' putsch.

AOTW – your 'man' will be doing a lot of nodding and he is, already THE donkey on which everyone tries to pin the tail.

On the plus side, even the smallest scrap of cheer for industry will win hearts and minds; any sign of reform will provide instant, tangible support; the slightest inkling of fair play will be met with a rousing cheer and more beer than the man can possibly drink. All to play for.

At present it's a little hard to define his motives for accepting 'the job' (unless Fawcett has a cunning plan, which would not surprise many) and apart from a fairly limited group no one knows 'what's in the sack'. What is known is how his opposition (not the MaM, as yet) will act; his early response to the opposition will tell the tale and set the tone for the next five years – which is a life sentence if another McComic style regime allowed to flourish and grow.

The stakes are high, the result uncertain and if 'the man' can't take the heat and he or his 'mates' are going to be upset by a 'nodding donkey' analogy, then perhaps he should take the hint from the three first preferred candidates who turned down the job and depart the fix.

Working to play the ball, examine the data available and watch carefully the results: thus far it is known that the original race – to find a 'nodding donkey' was fixed; that got tipped out. The second round was almost a straight race, with the stewards obligingly looking the other way when 'nodding donkey' was assisted in the running. The lengthy, 'diligent', world wide search by the MM crew for a 'suitable' candidate could, by a cynic, be translated in two ways. Finally, and after leaving the current Sleepy Hollow outfit time to reinforce the barriers, and grease the exit chutes - we get Skidmore.

So, lets remember it's the job, not the man we play. Actions and achievements will mark his tenure; not what his mates think.

"Nothing personal, dude. Just business."

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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 22:36
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Good idea - for everyone concerned. Kharon, your (well-considered) post implies that pretty much anyone taking the position will be a 'nodding donkey'. That may or may not be true, but I doubt it's how many people would read Sunfish's comment.

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Old 2nd Nov 2014, 23:26
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Latter essential, former, not so.

Maybe there is someone among those ready to put down Mr Skidmore who would feel able and qualified to apply for the position to which Mr Skidmore has been appointed. Surely we would all benefit from the vast experience that those so critical of Mr Skidmore's appointment could bring to the position.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 00:57
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Whilst I agree we should give Mr Skidmore a fair go, it is entirely approriate for forthright representation of the widespread disatisfaction to be conveyed to the new DAS. It is unlikely he is not aware of it, but there will be other "stakeholders" who will want to maintain the status quo.
There will doubtlessly be a number a people in CASA who will be in his ear saying the complaints are unwarrented whining and bleating from the industry and private operators, and there is no need to change the fine work of his predecessor.
We need to be very clear in continuing our representation that major change is vital and warranted, and needed early. Hopefully, Senator Fawcett et al will be able to assist in emphasising this.
Again, an effective and INDEPENDENT complaints avenue is vital, and one that has direct access to the DAS.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 05:23
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Old Fella:

Maybe there is someone among those ready to put down Mr Skidmore who would feel able and qualified to apply for the position to which Mr Skidmore has been appointed. Surely we would all benefit from the vast experience that those so critical of Mr Skidmore's appointment could bring to the position.
I am sure AVM. Skidmore is a great bloke, however that is not the issue. The issue is whether he has the skills and experience to drive a massive change program through an organisation loaded with reactionaries in senior management ranks. I've driven some "little" change stuff and even that was hard.

I would be pleasantly surprised if the good AVM has such skills but I think not. The term "military reformer" is an oxymoron. The AVM also would need the absolute cast iron support of the Minister, the Department head and the Board to drive a change program and I don't think that is coming either as evidenced by the time we have been waiting for the Governments response to the review recommendations.

To put that another way, driving a change program at CASA would involve rivers of (figurative) blood, frequent horrendous leaks to the media about safety issues, court cases and serious bastardry with much screaming and yelling as attempts are made to send senior managers packing. It is difficult and professionally dangerous work which often results in the reformer leaving the job early. I don't believe anyone in Government has the stomach for that.

This is not a job for a white knight, it is a job for a smiler with a great big knife behind his back- ergo, nothing is going to change. There will be reorganisation, new names perhaps but nothing substantial.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 06:35
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1. SITUATION.
2. MISSION.
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5. COMMAND AND CONTROL.


Basic officer skills. But totally alien to public servants.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 06:46
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Can we afford as an industry this fella that is the big question.
What is upsetting is we had the right person to for fill the position.

Ga is to hard for casa to regulate with the budget that they have.

There will always be ga but not so much private ga.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 06:54
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The best way to familiarise the new DAS with industry's thoughts on CASA, it's abilities and it's legacy is to send him up to North Queensland to meet with Shane Urquhart. The new DAS can then accompany Shane on a visit to Sally's grave. This will give the new DAS a proper look without the 'bullshit, phoney survey, polished graph, Board molested, smoke and mirror act'.
Hell, he could even swing by Mareeba if he wanted to.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 07:54
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Why do most people here assume the Government, Minister, CASA Board and DoT want change in CASA? Perhaps Government are satisfied with CASA performance and Mr Skidmore has a mandate to keep CASA on its present course?

What evidence is there that the new DAS has any mandate for change?
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 08:00
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Torres,
What evidence is there that the new DAS has any mandate for change?
ABSOLUTELY NONE!!!
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 09:41
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OK team enough of the negativity and the whining.Every industry finds its regulator a hinderance.

The banks hate ASIC. The miners hate the enviro departments. Transport companies hate the RTA.

Let's for a moment assume XXXXXXXX - sorry - Skates could achieve meaningful change, given the appropriate vehicle.

Nobody would argue that these industries should be given unlimited freedom and most people, those able to think rationally, would agree that aviation is the same.

The problem is that massive financial and administrative burdens (eg: requirements for multiple non-billable administrative personnel) are imposed on small businesses not to achieve *actual* safety improvements, but to achieve safety improvements that are incremental, perceived, or merely theoretical.

We cannot assume that we are the only industry burdened thus.

What would the Australian economy look like without the equivalent brown-tape that must be imposed on every industry?

Bill Clinton introduced a bill to congress with the overt objective of freeing the GA manufacturing sector from the crushing weight of public liability cases. Imagine if we could get the Economic Revitalisation (General Aviation) Act 2016 up.

What would you want to see in that legislation?

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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 12:57
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Let's for a moment assume Skidmark could achieve meaningful change, given the appropriate vehicle.
Horatio, that is very naughty. A few of us have resisted the urge until he has at least been able to bed himself in, shuffle some papers, water the pot plants and review a lot of CASA's issues

Now McComic, that my friend is a true skidmark! Someone who really left an unsightly stain on our aviation fabric! Anyway, that particular number 2 has been flushed away (apparently on its way to Canada's version of Luggage Point - ICAO). I am looking forward to letting Skates settle in for a brief spell. I believe the man will have good intentions, I have no doubt that he is Catholic and has a very high I.Q, and I really like his John Holmes moustache, I just don't think he knows yet that he will not be the Commander on the HMAS Fort Fumble.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 13:35
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Steve,

Don't pretend you did not see my post. How about answers for a change?
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 14:40
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Please be nice, Jaba.

yr right's possibly rather busy, yet again rearranging his burned clys.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 19:27
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Why would I bother. If you won't to know what was said look it up your self. It's all there.
This thing that if your an airline captain or ex military your the best is such a myth.
Look at the problems the military have been having lately. What you think that this stuff is just recent. No it's not. It's been happening for ever. This then follows them in to the real world when they leave.

Gerry
You would neither have the intellectual knowledge or the skill to be even know what a cylinder is. I'm guessing the biggest part of your day is weather to have the Danish or the custard tart for morning tea. Whoops look out for paper cuts.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 19:29
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Oh also Jaba
Have you ever signed out an aircraft that has crashed and killed 5 people. Then have to worry about if you made a mistake. Have your parter scream in the middle of the night dreaming the police have come to take you away.

I guess not.


I have
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 22:24
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Thumbs down

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Have you ever had a cabin door pop open in flight because your engineers didn't re-assemble it correctly?

Have you ever paid for multiple component replacements - parts AND labour - while your LAMEs try to fix a problem, only for it to be the issue you told them about in the first place?

Have you ever had an engineering shop hold you to ransom?

I have.

This myth you believe in that LAMEs are some sort of God-like figure is laughable. Get off your high horse mate this engineer vs pilot crap is just another fracture in the industry stopping us act as one, in the interest of our mutual survival.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 22:30
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I am genuinely saddened to hear that. Perhaps that is still having an effect on you today, did you ever seek help after all that?

Have you ever signed out an aircraft that has crashed and killed 5 people.
No, none that I have signed out have fortunately. That is not to say that I do not think about such an issue and have it at the back of my mind whenever I touch one. But statistically I have an advantage I guess. Thats the advantage of not having the same degree of experience as you, by volume I carry less risk.

However, given the constant taunts and school yard bullying dished out to several here on PPRuNe, I do find it hard to accept that you best answer is "why would I bother".
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 03:39
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Steve,

You've quoted the number 5 which might not be entirely correct. However I guess that narrows it down a bit. Instead of being obstructionist why not share your experience with all so that someone might learn from it and just perhaps prevent an accident happening as a result. Judging from posts you've made in some other areas regarding your history if you'd signed it out it was probably operating in the charter category however signing out an aircraft in itself does not lend to an accident taking place, there are always alot of other factors like weather etc.

I guess you gave evidence but you obviously weren't in any trouble and given your vast legal experience and expertise that you've told us about you would be aware what you can and can't say.

That being said, as you well know and were probably brought up with, there's nothing quite as valuable as being able to learn from the experience, good or bad, of another.

Just a pity you don't care to share yours that obviously relates to something that happened a long time ago but is still clearly relevant from an engineers perspective.

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