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Bankstown Airport – Desperately Sad

Old 14th Nov 2014, 21:10
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The graph is also deceptive as the spacing of data points goes every 5 years up to 2004 and then every year. A fail in high school science.....
or perhaps intentional misrepresentation of the CURRENT state of affairs by the Authority?
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 22:56
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The problem with YSBK RPT is the lack of good rail access.

Bankstown railway station is a 10 minute taxi ride and the drive into town is slow and painful.

If the RPT passengers did catch the train from Bankstown they'd probably get mugged by an Islander youth gang or caught up on a Middle-Eastern drug gang drive-by-shooting.

The streets of East LA, or Detroit are nothing compared to Bankstown, especially at night.
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 23:00
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r perhaps intentional misrepresentation of the CURRENT state of affairs by the Authority?
I'm horrified you could think such a thing.Queenslanders should just take a hard look at Campbell Newmans multi million dollar advertisements with a graph depicting how much debt will be paid down when they sell all our assetts. Such honesty ! Such clarity !

I've heard of time distortion/ stretching but this graph stretching is new to me.
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Old 15th Nov 2014, 00:02
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who uses trains ?


Don't even know how to get to the train station at Sydney airport & apparently more expensive than taxis if more than 1 person.


Bankstown airport has a Thrifty car rental depot & if commercial flights were to begin there, others would follow.
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Old 15th Nov 2014, 09:20
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@BNEA320 - I use the trains at Sydney airport all of the time. It's a great service and their are train station underneath both domestic and international terminals.

From memory, the return train fair from Domestic to Central station in the city costs $16. A taxi for the same would cost maybe $80 and take a lot longer.

Just walk out of the Domestic exit gate, down the escalator to the right and then take another escalator downstairs to the railway station. It's a really well integrated into the airport, quick, efficient and clean.
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Old 15th Nov 2014, 19:51
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they sell all our assetts
We know "Queenslanders" can't spell but the Govt is not selling the bigger assets at all. What they are doing is selling the right to lease. Like anyone, debt should be brought under control...

Most bigger airports around the world are owned by non-Govts...
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Old 15th Nov 2014, 22:43
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taxis will come if demand. Presume that taxis at SYD, like BNE & MEL can wait around for hours at times to get a fare. Better to sit at BWU for a few minutes than at SYD for hours.
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Old 7th Jan 2015, 07:00
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taxis will come if demand. Presume that taxis at SYD, like BNE & MEL can wait around for hours at times to get a fare. Better to sit at BWU for a few minutes than at SYD for hours.
Incorrect.

I had reason to divert a Dash 8 into BK a few years ago post-curfew at SY due Wx. My company managed to get 1 taxi to the airport for 50 PAX. When asked, the taxi driver explained that drivers have security concerns with BK at night and are not prepared to take a risk.

The only way to resolve the issue was to get QF Transport to send a bus 3 hours later.
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Old 7th Jan 2015, 07:05
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funny, we have no probs getting a taxi at YSBK for private pilots that fly in from other areas. even late at night....
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Old 7th Jan 2015, 07:14
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I'm only speaking from first-hand experience with the taxi situation I encountered after a diversion. Things may have improved since then.
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Old 7th Jan 2015, 13:28
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I keep saying here that Dick could help revive public interest in aviation through a media campaign and sposorship (sic) or spearheading an EAA-style Young Eagles program in this country,
In the mid-1990s Dick (and Boyd Munro) did exactly that with AOPA, and for their troubles (and hefty personal expenditure) were roundly and loudly condemned by large slabs of the GA community. --- who believed that grovelling to the powers that be would produce better results than political action.

We have seen how effective the current AOPA policy of mass grovel has worked.

And has happens here whenever Dick suggests we should have the so very successful US airspace management system --- where the phrase "clearance not available, remain clear of controlled airspace" is unknown, we get yet another concerted bout of all the reasons why "it won't work here".

Tootle pip!!
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Old 7th Jan 2015, 13:59
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Bankistan, Archerdishu, Essidong.

There's not much hope for them as viable airports.
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Old 8th Jan 2015, 04:56
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Angry Miniscule operating in stealth mode..WTF??

M&M has sure kept this quiet...
Truss Approves Bankstown Master Plan
07 Jan 2015

Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure and Regional Development Warren Truss today approved the Bankstown Airport 2014 Master Plan.

Bankstown Airport submitted its Plan in October 2014, to replace the 2005 Master Plan.

“The Master Plan sets out Bankstown Airport's strategic direction for the next 20 years and provides information for the community about site operations and future development,” Mr Truss said.

“The Plan proposes a range of aviation developments including runway lighting upgrades and runway, taxiway and apron pavement strengthening.”

According to the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development, the plan seeks to support the long-term sustainability of the aviation industry in the Sydney region "consistent with the Australian government's strategic planning for Sydney region aviation—including the recent announcement of Badgerys Creek as the location for a Western Sydney airport."

While Bankstown Airport has been experiencing declining aircraft movements for some time, over the next 20 years aircraft movements are predicted to increase from around 220,000 movements in 2013 to around 298,000 in 2034.

No increase to the current provision for Regular Passenger Transport links has been proposed, and although the plan has been approved, individual developments contained within the plan still need to be signed-off by the Department.

Bankstown Airport is now required to publish the master plan within 50 working days.
This comment from Beryl is spot on...:
Beryl Lester. • a day ago
They kept their cards (plans) close to their chest. Looks like with stealth they will win. Those famous last words Bankstown will never become a busy Airport.
Passing strange is that the presser for this announcement was only released yesterday but apparently the Miniscule signed the Master Plan on Monday...: Approval granted for Bankstown Airport Master Plan

For those interested here is what Truss has signed off on - 2014 Preliminary Draft Master Plan

I guess the issues with the McBank & Floodplains have all been addressed..or have they??

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Old 9th Jan 2015, 08:40
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Looks like BAL have come up with a new revenue stream.

Send a bill for a "daily charge" for aircraft that are based at Jandakot and haven't been to Bankstown for about 15 years.

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Old 9th Jan 2015, 08:55
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Clare,
Que?
Could you expand on that for me, please.
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Old 9th Jan 2015, 10:13
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Anyone care to estimate what sort of offer would be in the ball park to buy the airport lease from BAC/ BAL?
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Old 9th Jan 2015, 10:30
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Nulli, too much!!, what do you think a thousand acres of empty land smack dab in the centre of Sydney is worth??
Unfortunately it was ordained by a murky Machievellion way back when The leases were first let, that Bk would eventually be developed for the benefit of the shareholders.

They just had to get rid of a few pesky airplane operators first.

The minuscule is so senile now he will just sign whatever is put in front of him.

We are witnessing the end game of a conspiracy to finish General Aviation in Australia.
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Old 9th Jan 2015, 12:45
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Stanwell, today I received an invoice from Bankstown Airport Limited for a "daily charge" whatever that is, for an aircraft that lives at Jandakot and left Bankstown 15 years ago.

Looks like they are picking callsigns at random and sending out invoices for things that are physically impossible unless this little Cherokee has superpowers and can be in two places over 3000 km apart at once.
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Old 9th Jan 2015, 12:51
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Ah, thank you Clare.
Similar to the 'landing fees' scam, eh?
I'll pass that on to a mate who was a bit concerned.
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Old 24th Feb 2015, 13:12
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A question for Dick Smith who started this thread.

Where did you go wrong?

You were the man who was in charge all those years ago
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