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Old 30th Aug 2014, 10:52
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20000 fly hours as you put it, does not preclude someone from being wrong.
"This no dumb no time bloke" ......are you joking?
So this is not your own personal experience.
Which court case had high profile farmers on board? Or did the plane convey high profile farmers?
If they had been of a slightly higher profile then would the turbulence have bothered them?
Tip speed is approaching the speed of sound....so is my Holden, just very slowly, perhaps a deep breath before typing would help you.
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 11:25
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Oooooooh, your friendly neighbourhood illiterate AME is deeply involved in international legal intrigue and affairs!?! Do tell more Secret Squirrel...or are you waiting for a Wikipedia update? LOL!
I second that
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 11:29
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Why wouldn't you have an open mind on the turbulence issue? Have you seen the size of the effing things??
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what YR RIGHT says

Did someone say he was a spokesperson for the nuclear power industry?
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He's put himself out there as a spokesman for the engineering industry
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 11:55
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My challenge to those who follow the likes of AM radio 'Shock Jocks' against renewable energy is simply this:


Go for a drive (or preferably a fly) up the Hunter Valley and have a good look at the wanton destruction of open cut coal mines. Then compare that to the aesthetics of a typical wind farm.


One thing that I find quite sad is that after allowing the coal lobby to do whatever they liked over decades, there still isn't a decent dual carriage highway from Newcastle to Muswellbrook.


And does anyone really believe that the operator of the Mt Thorley / Warkworth mine will ever rejuvenate the massive area of previously agricultural land, now turned into a moonscape?
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 12:19
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tip speed is approaching the speed of sound
55 metre radius
= 345 metres per revolution
normal 15 to 20 rpm
=6900 metres per min, using 20rpm

So all those DHC8 and BE20 drivers, you are all approaching the speed of sound. You jet jockeys are all breaking the sound barrier. Where are all the court cases for broken windows.
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 12:36
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Don't see wind farm as the cause.

4 dead after small plane crashes into South Dakota wind farm in fog | syracuse.com
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 12:43
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They both have their environmental drawbacks. I can't describe a wind farm as pretty. I wouldn't like the things anywhere near my backyard. A coal mine either. If you want to rid the environment of coal you're gunna have to make some difficult decisions. There's a small city in the US that's 98% solar (yr right probably knows all about it ) dunno whether you could power LA on solar but.
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 12:45
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I can say I certainly know a lot more on this subject than you will ever know.
We certainly are lucky to have you here
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 13:21
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They both have their environmental drawbacks. I can't describe a wind farm as pretty. I wouldn't like the things anywhere near my backyard. A coal mine either. If you want to rid the environment of coal you're gunna have to make some difficult decisions. There's a small city in the US that's 98% solar (yr right probably knows all about it ) dunno whether you could power LA on solar but.
There is a fairly recent announcement of a solar town/city in US that is about to commission a large (massive) tower filled with sodium that will act as a battery to provide current through the night for the whole city. Much rather have solar than wind turbines which would not be viable without significant grants and concessions.
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 14:13
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A lot of industries get subsidies, including fossil fuel. Clean coal anyone?

New Scientist article about the sort of storage you're talking about: Giant solar farm uses molten salt to keep power coming - 23 April 2014 - New Scientist
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 20:17
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crop pies live their life below 500'

Mind you they should know where every power line is, and anything as big as a wind generator.
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 21:15
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Hmmmm, wind turbines, eh? During the last 29 years of flying I have found that they are best avoided by:
1. Studying maps and NOTAMS (that's called 'preparation'),
2. Not scud running, and
3. LOOKING OUT.
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 21:31
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I know someone that made over $100m out of his wind farm .... I've never heard him complaining about them for some reason
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 21:35
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There have been a few deaths in the USA involving the turbines and guys performing air work and ag. The main concern is not so much the turbines themselves but the towers that they put up near them to measure wind speed. These are basically long poles with bracing wires and unmarked and vertually invisible when flying along. These can be put up over night and not reported as they are within a few feet short of the maximum reporting height.
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 21:52
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4 dead after small plane crashes into South Dakota wind farm in fog | syracuse.comIt seems to be very clear the root cause of the accident was not the Turbines. If we're not to blame the pilot then next in line is the fog .

Here's an idea for our Dear Leader, Tony (don't mention the budget ) Abbott.

As fog causes more deaths in Australia than terrorists ever have he should declare war on FOG. He could call it 'OPERATION FOGGY THINKING'
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 22:20
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I can't describe a wind farm as pretty.
I disagree - I think they are. There are some in the mid-north of S.A. that I love watching as when we go south.
And does anyone remember the old "free lights" that used to be on farms many years ago to provide power? Same principle, but of course on a smaller scale. My father remembers sleeping near one when he was a lad. Didn't sleep much the first few nights with the noise, but after that was too damn tired to care!

DF.
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 22:28
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But did the wind farm cause the fog? Or is it made of the same chemical they use in contrails - got to be more effective at sea level
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Old 30th Aug 2014, 23:12
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In a few areas in the UK there are antenna farms with towers up to 1000' agl. I remember one near the south coast, west of Bournemouth, if anyone wants to fact check me.

The facilities are of course marked on charts. You have to take your headphones off in the vicinity, in case arcing occurs between the ear pieces due to the intense RF field.*

Well, they do teach newbies that scud running is very dangerous. Perhaps the advice is true!



* I popped that one in for you YR RIGHT. It's fun making stuff up - I might do more of it!
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