CASA, good luck controlling this!
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CASA, good luck controlling this!
Drone vision.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a76_1406508773
So, here we have a holidaymaker, doing some great video in QLD, seemingly oblivious to our regulations, taking a drone way up high, in an area where VFR often transit at 500 to 1000 feet. Awesome.
How on earth does CASA ever expect to control everything, like this?
THEY CAN'T! They can regulate til the cows come home, and it isn't going to make one bit of difference. Should they even bother spend the money trying?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a76_1406508773
So, here we have a holidaymaker, doing some great video in QLD, seemingly oblivious to our regulations, taking a drone way up high, in an area where VFR often transit at 500 to 1000 feet. Awesome.
How on earth does CASA ever expect to control everything, like this?
THEY CAN'T! They can regulate til the cows come home, and it isn't going to make one bit of difference. Should they even bother spend the money trying?
Yes
yes they should.
It's no different to idiots with lasers.
Hard to catch but once you do, fine them and jail them.
There is only one place for lasers and that's on sharks.
yes they should.
It's no different to idiots with lasers.
Hard to catch but once you do, fine them and jail them.
There is only one place for lasers and that's on sharks.
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Q1 is 322m, drones are allowed to fly up to 400m before infringing airspace I thought? And not within 3nm of an aerodrome.
Either way it won't be long until some boofhead prangs one into something serious. They've already hit the Sydney Harbour Bridge and been found smashed along the RWY at YSSY
Besides, you would getter better 'vision' alongside Q1 at night time. Sometimes people can be so forgetful about pulling the curtains shut
Either way it won't be long until some boofhead prangs one into something serious. They've already hit the Sydney Harbour Bridge and been found smashed along the RWY at YSSY
Besides, you would getter better 'vision' alongside Q1 at night time. Sometimes people can be so forgetful about pulling the curtains shut
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Besides, you would getter better 'vision' alongside Q1 at night time. Sometimes people can be so forgetful about pulling the curtains shut
With the cost of FLIR cameras plummeting (as well as drone prices), I would expect some interesting footage to appear on youtube in the future.
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It’s 400ft not 400m and must not be flown over any populous area. There are other rules too ie, keeping the drone in sight which this idiot has broken as well.
It’s 400ft not 400m and must not be flown over any populous area. There are other rules too ie, keeping the drone in sight which this idiot has broken as well.
theres laws about driving too fast too. doesnt stop that.
I fully support CASA's efforts to regulate drones/UAV's, as it is a risk I cannot control myself.
Once sundry nutters start exploring all the dark side drone possibilities i suspects drones in civvy hands will be thought of in the same way as semi auto rifles in civvy hands...
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Woo-hoo! We're camping in the sub-penthouse of the Q1 on the 48th floor, from Friday, for a week.
Looks like it could be worth taking the 12 ga up with us for some drone target .. errr .. clay target practice!! 
Looks like it could be worth taking the 12 ga up with us for some drone target .. errr .. clay target practice!!
I tender this in evidence...
101.070 Operation in controlled airspace
(1) A person may operate an unmanned aircraft above 400 feet AGL in controlled airspace only:
101.400 Operation of model aircraft outside approved areas
(1) A person may operate a model aircraft outside an approved area above 400 feet AGL only if he or she:
(a) keeps it in sight; and
(b) keeps it clear of populous areas.
101.070 Operation in controlled airspace
(1) A person may operate an unmanned aircraft above 400 feet AGL in controlled airspace only:
101.400 Operation of model aircraft outside approved areas
(1) A person may operate a model aircraft outside an approved area above 400 feet AGL only if he or she:
(a) keeps it in sight; and
(b) keeps it clear of populous areas.
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"If I am sliding down the ILS at night it is a completely different matter"
Not at Cooly you won't ....
101 8.2 -
8.2 Finding Model Flying Sites for Model Aircraft
8.2.1 The operator of a model aircraft weighing over 100 grams is required to obtain
permission before flying a model above 400 ft AGL within controlled airspace or within 3
nautical miles of an aerodrome. While this rule means that a model aircraft may be flown
above 400 ft AGL clear of these areas, there are advantages in seeking approval for a
permanent model aircraft operating area. Publication of the details of a model aircraft
operating area means that other users of airspace will be advised where there is potential
for conflict with model aircraft.
8.2.1 The operator of a model aircraft weighing over 100 grams is required to obtain
permission before flying a model above 400 ft AGL within controlled airspace or within 3
nautical miles of an aerodrome. While this rule means that a model aircraft may be flown
above 400 ft AGL clear of these areas
No Law broken then.....OCTA, and greater than 3 nm from OOL ....
So, here we have a holidaymaker, doing some great video in QLD, seemingly oblivious to our regulations, taking a drone way up high, in an area where VFR often transit at 500 to 1000 feet. Awesome.
Perhaps even more conversant with our regulations than you thunder 5?
As a resident of this fine town I regularly observe VFR traffic transiting here......never ever ever as close to these buildings as that drone guy in the video, and I most certainly hope none ever do!!
Not at Cooly you won't ....
101 8.2 -
8.2 Finding Model Flying Sites for Model Aircraft
8.2.1 The operator of a model aircraft weighing over 100 grams is required to obtain
permission before flying a model above 400 ft AGL within controlled airspace or within 3
nautical miles of an aerodrome. While this rule means that a model aircraft may be flown
above 400 ft AGL clear of these areas, there are advantages in seeking approval for a
permanent model aircraft operating area. Publication of the details of a model aircraft
operating area means that other users of airspace will be advised where there is potential
for conflict with model aircraft.
8.2.1 The operator of a model aircraft weighing over 100 grams is required to obtain
permission before flying a model above 400 ft AGL within controlled airspace or within 3
nautical miles of an aerodrome. While this rule means that a model aircraft may be flown
above 400 ft AGL clear of these areas
No Law broken then.....OCTA, and greater than 3 nm from OOL ....
So, here we have a holidaymaker, doing some great video in QLD, seemingly oblivious to our regulations, taking a drone way up high, in an area where VFR often transit at 500 to 1000 feet. Awesome.
Perhaps even more conversant with our regulations than you thunder 5?
As a resident of this fine town I regularly observe VFR traffic transiting here......never ever ever as close to these buildings as that drone guy in the video, and I most certainly hope none ever do!!
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It’s 400ft not 400m and must not be flown over any populous area. There are other rules too ie, keeping the drone in sight which this idiot has broken as well.
Cheers
Andy_RR
How about you post the complete section.
So what is an Area approved under regulation 101.030?
Section 101.400 Operation of model aircraft outside approved areas isn't applicable to UAV. Section 101.250 is the applicable section.
You have confused as has Fliegenmong the section regarding "Model Aircraft" with UAV's. As can be seen different rules apply. Fliegenmong has also quoted an "Advisory Circular" rather than using the CASR Part 101.
How about you post the complete section.
101.070 Operation in controlled airspace
(1) A person may operate an unmanned aircraft above 400 feet AGL in controlled airspace only:
(a) in an area approved under regulation 101.030 as an area for the operation of unmanned aircraft of the same kind as the aircraft, and in accordance with any conditions of the approval; and
(b) in accordance with an air traffic control clearance.
(1) A person may operate an unmanned aircraft above 400 feet AGL in controlled airspace only:
(a) in an area approved under regulation 101.030 as an area for the operation of unmanned aircraft of the same kind as the aircraft, and in accordance with any conditions of the approval; and
(b) in accordance with an air traffic control clearance.
101.030 Approval of areas for operation of unmanned aircraft or rockets
(1) A person may apply to CASA for the approval of an area as an area for the operation of:
(a) unmanned aircraft generally, or a particular class of unmanned aircraft; or
(b) rockets.
(2) For paragraph (1)(a), the classes of unmanned aircraft are the following:
(a) tethered balloons and kites;
(b) unmanned free balloons;
(c) UAVs;
(d) model aircraft.
(3) In considering whether to approve an area for any of those purposes, CASA must take into account the likely effect on the safety of air navigation of the operation of unmanned aircraft in, or the launching of rockets in or over, the area.
(4) An approval has effect from the time written notice of it is given to the applicant, or a later day or day and time stated in the approval.
(5) An approval may be expressed to have effect for a particular period (including a period of less than 1 day), or indefinitely.
(6) CASA may impose conditions on the approval in the interests of the safety of air navigation.
(7) If CASA approves an area under subregulation (1), it must publish details of the approval including any condition) in NOTAM or on an aeronautical chart.
(8) CASA may revoke the approval of an area, or change the conditions that apply to such an approval, in the interests of the safety of air navigation, but must publish details of any revocation or change in NOTAM or on an aeronautical chart.
(9) CASA must also give written notice of the revocation or change:
(a) to the person who applied for the approval of the area; or
(b) if that person applied for that approval as an officer of an organisation concerned with unmanned aircraft or rockets, and no longer holds that office—to the person who now holds the office.
(1) A person may apply to CASA for the approval of an area as an area for the operation of:
(a) unmanned aircraft generally, or a particular class of unmanned aircraft; or
(b) rockets.
(2) For paragraph (1)(a), the classes of unmanned aircraft are the following:
(a) tethered balloons and kites;
(b) unmanned free balloons;
(c) UAVs;
(d) model aircraft.
(3) In considering whether to approve an area for any of those purposes, CASA must take into account the likely effect on the safety of air navigation of the operation of unmanned aircraft in, or the launching of rockets in or over, the area.
(4) An approval has effect from the time written notice of it is given to the applicant, or a later day or day and time stated in the approval.
(5) An approval may be expressed to have effect for a particular period (including a period of less than 1 day), or indefinitely.
(6) CASA may impose conditions on the approval in the interests of the safety of air navigation.
(7) If CASA approves an area under subregulation (1), it must publish details of the approval including any condition) in NOTAM or on an aeronautical chart.
(8) CASA may revoke the approval of an area, or change the conditions that apply to such an approval, in the interests of the safety of air navigation, but must publish details of any revocation or change in NOTAM or on an aeronautical chart.
(9) CASA must also give written notice of the revocation or change:
(a) to the person who applied for the approval of the area; or
(b) if that person applied for that approval as an officer of an organisation concerned with unmanned aircraft or rockets, and no longer holds that office—to the person who now holds the office.
101.250 Where small UAVs may be operated
(1) A person may operate a small UAV outside an approved area only if:
(a) where the UAV is operated above 400 feet AGL, the operator has CASA’s approval to do so; and
(b) the UAV stays clear of populous areas.
(1) A person may operate a small UAV outside an approved area only if:
(a) where the UAV is operated above 400 feet AGL, the operator has CASA’s approval to do so; and
(b) the UAV stays clear of populous areas.
101.085 Maximum operating height
(1) A person may operate an unmanned aircraft at above 400 feet AGL only:
(a) in an area approved under regulation 101.030 as an area for the operation of unmanned aircraft of the same class as the aircraft concerned, and in accordance with any conditions of the approval; or
(b) as otherwise permitted by this Part.
(1) A person may operate an unmanned aircraft at above 400 feet AGL only:
(a) in an area approved under regulation 101.030 as an area for the operation of unmanned aircraft of the same class as the aircraft concerned, and in accordance with any conditions of the approval; or
(b) as otherwise permitted by this Part.
101.245 Operation near people
(1) Subject to subregulations (2) and (3), a person must not operate a UAV within 30 metres of a person who is not directly associated with the operation of the UAV.
(2) Subregulation (1) does not apply in relation to a person who stands behind the UAV while it is taking off.
(3) Subregulation (1) also does not prevent the operation of a UAV airship within 30 metres of a person if the airship approaches no closer to the person than 10 metres horizontally and 30 feet vertically.
(1) Subject to subregulations (2) and (3), a person must not operate a UAV within 30 metres of a person who is not directly associated with the operation of the UAV.
(2) Subregulation (1) does not apply in relation to a person who stands behind the UAV while it is taking off.
(3) Subregulation (1) also does not prevent the operation of a UAV airship within 30 metres of a person if the airship approaches no closer to the person than 10 metres horizontally and 30 feet vertically.
