Coast-watch contract renewal
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Might be a tad awkward to swap the blue uniform for a green one when some of them swapped the green for the blue in the beginning? Wonder if those people would want to go back again or even if they'd be hired again?
Interesting times ahead... Wonder what use there is for the Dorniers after the Dash 8s take over? Back to the boneyard maybe? Re-fit for charter/RPT would be more costly than its worth but they've got unlimited funds so who knows what they will have a go at?
Interesting times ahead... Wonder what use there is for the Dorniers after the Dash 8s take over? Back to the boneyard maybe? Re-fit for charter/RPT would be more costly than its worth but they've got unlimited funds so who knows what they will have a go at?
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Ready to go as in 'some airframes available'? Or ready to go as in surveillance radar fitted, comm suite, drop mods and approvals? I'll never say never, but the idea of a jet for slow/low level search doesn't seem realistic. My money's on the dash...but then again, it was last time too...
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Apparently ready to go full stop. Can get there quick good slow speed and good endurance. Just what I was told. The contract says what we won't and how much we will pay the rest is up to you. As I was told they on the money. I was a little shocked as we'll. I guess time will tell. Not looking good for pearl but.
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Some old 145's that used to fly in the country were originally (I remember/believe), were the MP versions, Maritime Patrol - good for LR ops - crap for pulling a load out of The Curry in summer......
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Couple of different variants of the 145 Wateroff. The later model (XR) would do it easy. The only variant suitable to maritime ops would be a converted Legacy as it has the extra (considerable) endurance
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Correct Skyairworld did operate two EMB145 MP' (SZF and SZH), but the MP does not stand for Maritime Patrol. The EMB 145 is available with different MTOW's and Embraer have named the different variants MK (19990 kg MTOW), MP (20990 kg MTOW) and the LR (22000kg MTOW). The MK and MP have the same fuel capacity (4132kg), with the LR having more (5136kg).
The confusing part (thanks to Embraer) is they have also used MP to describe a maritime version of the 145 built for the military. The EMB 145 MP is a new-generation multirole aircraft produced by Embraer to meet the challenging requirements of maritime patrol and anti-submarine warfare. Derived from ERJ 145 platform, the aircraft can be configured for maritime patrol and anti-surface and anti-submarine warfare missions.
The EMB 145 MP's open architecture allows for integration of mission systems according to the customer's requirements. Its under-wing hard-points can be fitted with conventional and smart weapons.
The aircraft is powered by two AE 3007 turbofan engines, each generating a maximum thrust of 7,420lb. The maximum speed is about Mach 0.78 and range is about 3,020km.
Embraer Defesa & Segurança
Three view of the EMB 145 Maritime Patrol (MP) can be found here:
Embraer Defesa & Segurança
And this is the EMB145 (MP) that was operated in Australia:
VH-SZF Embraer 145
Embraer have also developed a Multi Intel version of the EMB145 and this aircraft is designed for:
• Ground Mapping
• Ground Surveillance
• Surveillance of Economic Zones
• Surveillance of Borders
• Search and Rescue
It still requires heavy modifications to be carried out. Details here:
http://www.embraerdefensesystems.com..._role_real.asp
My guess is the Jetgo tender would be based around after market third party provider of systems such as this;
http://www.uasc.com/specialmissions.aspx
http://www.uasc.com/products/mmms.aspx
http://gs.flir.com/uploads/file/prod...e_brochure.pdf
Traditionally SAR/ Maritime Patrol has been carried by turboprops, but even the RAAF is moving towards jet Maritime Patrol with the purchase of the P8 (based on the B737).
The confusing part (thanks to Embraer) is they have also used MP to describe a maritime version of the 145 built for the military. The EMB 145 MP is a new-generation multirole aircraft produced by Embraer to meet the challenging requirements of maritime patrol and anti-submarine warfare. Derived from ERJ 145 platform, the aircraft can be configured for maritime patrol and anti-surface and anti-submarine warfare missions.
The EMB 145 MP's open architecture allows for integration of mission systems according to the customer's requirements. Its under-wing hard-points can be fitted with conventional and smart weapons.
The aircraft is powered by two AE 3007 turbofan engines, each generating a maximum thrust of 7,420lb. The maximum speed is about Mach 0.78 and range is about 3,020km.
Embraer Defesa & Segurança
Three view of the EMB 145 Maritime Patrol (MP) can be found here:
Embraer Defesa & Segurança
And this is the EMB145 (MP) that was operated in Australia:
VH-SZF Embraer 145
Embraer have also developed a Multi Intel version of the EMB145 and this aircraft is designed for:
• Ground Mapping
• Ground Surveillance
• Surveillance of Economic Zones
• Surveillance of Borders
• Search and Rescue
It still requires heavy modifications to be carried out. Details here:
http://www.embraerdefensesystems.com..._role_real.asp
My guess is the Jetgo tender would be based around after market third party provider of systems such as this;
http://www.uasc.com/specialmissions.aspx
http://www.uasc.com/products/mmms.aspx
http://gs.flir.com/uploads/file/prod...e_brochure.pdf
Traditionally SAR/ Maritime Patrol has been carried by turboprops, but even the RAAF is moving towards jet Maritime Patrol with the purchase of the P8 (based on the B737).
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Aero cat. Let's see here. I get told a lot. Maybe because I ask a lot and know the correct people to ask and know them on a personal level. And as for be conadicting we'll know just updating what I have found out.
I would have thought 3000kms was a little short on range for this type of operation? And I assume that range is at altitude with no intermediate descent and climb back to altitude let alone a search of any description.
you still need a multi TP to fly the tight search and drop patterns
Lets see what happens next, there are capable operators with capable platforms. AMSA ran the Jet flag up the pole as far back as 2011 with the knowledge that the Doorknob had its limits and relying on Ronnie RAAF for the extreme range SAR coverage was not a permanent option.
The tenders were all in well before MH370 proved the theory, the Japanese GV demonstrated the capability on a live op and AMSA creamed their jeans with what a jet could do for range, endurance, response time, payload over and above their existing capability.
Personally I reckon they are hanging for any news from the Fugro ships out there now before they make a public announcement as to who won and why.
