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Old 15th Dec 2015, 00:53
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You can't be serious Squawk7700?

This website certainly generates some strange responses.

Time to deregister from Ppune methinks, I am wasting my time viewing this website.
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Old 15th Dec 2015, 01:58
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I don't understand your point and the feeling that you need to de-register. Perhaps you have misunderstood my post, which if is the case, I apologise for any ambiguity.

Too many of say that "mistakes" are made, however when you troll through the wording you'll see that people's interpretation of a "mistake" varies significantly. What might seem like a mistake to one guy, looks like bad luck for another.
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Old 15th Dec 2015, 02:05
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there is a certain type of person who is impervious to received common sense. I see them regularly on the water when Yacht racing. It does not matter what you try and tell them, they know better. I have no doubt that they exist in aviation as well.

In trying to detect and guard against these idiots, micro prescriptive CASA regulation is counter productive because it is so badly written, draconian, ass backwards,ill thought out and confusing it brings regulation itself into contempt.

This leads our budding aviator into the dangerous attitude that: " all these regulations are stupid and silly" just because 90% of them are stupid and silly.

Tragically this aviator did not have the skill, imagination and experience to separate out the 10% of CASA regulations that are written in the blood of those who disobeyed them.

This is the case for simple plain english FAA style regulation in my opinion.
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Old 15th Dec 2015, 23:21
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In trying to detect and guard against these idiots, micro prescriptive CASA regulation is counter productive because it is so badly written, draconian, ass backwards, ill thought out and confusing it brings regulation itself into contempt
Sunfish, I think you've encapsulated what 90% of GA pilots think about CASA. The remaining 10% wouldn't care.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 00:05
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Slight 'drift'.....

Re Sunny's definition....

I, for another, could not agree more!!

And, I have said so in that 'survey' recently asked for by the 'double dutch legalese' specialists that attempt to be 'our regulator' (small print intended) and whom I have great difficulty in trying to understand....

How on earth do the wannabees do an 'Air Legislation' exam these days...??
Sheesh!!

WE are NOT lawyers, we WANT rules that we can read and understand whilst sitting in our 'very small offices-in-the-sky'....

OVAH!

No Cheers...Nope...None at all...

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Old 16th Dec 2015, 03:19
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Sunny = Nail on head.

And the cowboy element will still exist, but the fewer that become encourage to go there by the regulator the better.

I am that over CASA stupidity that if I were of the kind that would not care about trying to do the right thing, I would go off the grid too. It is easy to see why so many do.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 03:35
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Low flying indeed.Powerline height: 9.5m AGL.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 05:12
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Illegal low flying is like drink driving, no rules or regulator is going to prevent a person with intent from partaking in stupid behaviour. Stupidity cannot be regulated!

If you witnessed a fellow pilot doing a beat up, what would you do? If you elected to do nothing and the pilot subsequently killed himself or someone else at some stage later doing the same dangerous activity, how would you feel?
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 06:04
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so, seeing as this keeps happening, the rules obviously dont work. and no, we dont need more rules, as this has been proven to not be a deterrrant to these actions. we need better training and a better attitude to flying.. until attitudes change towards low level flight, im sure in the not to distant future, there will be another report like this one just with different location and different names..
Sadly those who flout the rules will not seek out the correct training, regardless of how much education is provided, or what rules are in place!
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 07:52
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Exactly correct Howard, no rules will have any effect on the recalcitrant people.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 12:32
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Exactly correct Howard, no rules will have any effect on the recalcitrant people
Hoon drivers for example. Which is why it is a total waste of time spending tax payers money on Drive Safely advertisements on TV and other media.
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