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For a laugh....
This is what's being feed to the general public
New technology keeps close eye on sky | News.com.au
This is what's being feed to the general public
New technology keeps close eye on sky | News.com.au
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Obviously I missed the joke....
But for the average person who has an attention span of 10 seconds, it gets the point across well enough. Conceded some errors, but anything that lets the public know safety is improving (even if its not 100% factual) has my vote!
But for the average person who has an attention span of 10 seconds, it gets the point across well enough. Conceded some errors, but anything that lets the public know safety is improving (even if its not 100% factual) has my vote!
Agree with Wolf. Apart from the fact that the journo can't spell, it's a pretty reasonable article. ADS-B will be/is a great aid around here when the weather goes pear-shaped (or should I say anvil-shaped...).
I want some of whatever you guys are on.
Have a look at the near mid air collision near Mangalore thread. In fact I would challenge anyone to find a mid air incident involving GA aircraft in the last 3 years where ADS-B would have made a difference.
ADS-B will have zero safety benefit for GA. It has an efficiency benefit for the airlines, it has a huge capital expenditure benefit for AsA. It will have no benefit the the majority of GA IFR flights. Its effectively just another tax on owning aircraft.
Have a look at the near mid air collision near Mangalore thread. In fact I would challenge anyone to find a mid air incident involving GA aircraft in the last 3 years where ADS-B would have made a difference.
ADS-B will have zero safety benefit for GA. It has an efficiency benefit for the airlines, it has a huge capital expenditure benefit for AsA. It will have no benefit the the majority of GA IFR flights. Its effectively just another tax on owning aircraft.
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I think those that criticise it so much actually have no experience with it. I would like to see far more coverage over the country down to 5000' this would then get cover almost to ground at most aerodromes and in the climb descent.
Recently had a case of crossing traffic where flying a G36 sans ADSB meant we were both off screen, but had I been in the -10 I would have been on screen and ATC would have had a far better idea what was going on inside the estimate bubbles they try to keep apart.
Elsewhere it has been a very good thing.
Recently had a case of crossing traffic where flying a G36 sans ADSB meant we were both off screen, but had I been in the -10 I would have been on screen and ATC would have had a far better idea what was going on inside the estimate bubbles they try to keep apart.
Elsewhere it has been a very good thing.
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Let me be more specific. I think your experience is my minority condition!
1. While VFR aircraft are excluded from ADS-B, there can be no real safety benefit. Every single traffic alert I've had has been with another VFR aircraft. This includes VFR aircraft flying non ICAO levels at 10,000 ft and another time I was given an alert for a proximity to a VFR aircraft while I was in cloud. ADS-B for IFR aircraft only does not help this.
2. I haven't done a full search, but the look I've had at reported GA near mid air collisions suggests that none would have been avoided with ADS-B fitted.
The area where ADS-B helps is in remote areas outside radar coverage. Its a nice feeling knowing you are on someone's radar in outback areas, but there are other mechanisms and you are still not provided with any better traffic warning with respect to VFR aircraft.
Australia is the only country in the world that is mandating ADS-B for all IFR aircraft in all airspace types at all levels.
Let me be more specific. I think your experience is my minority condition!
1. While VFR aircraft are excluded from ADS-B, there can be no real safety benefit. Every single traffic alert I've had has been with another VFR aircraft. This includes VFR aircraft flying non ICAO levels at 10,000 ft and another time I was given an alert for a proximity to a VFR aircraft while I was in cloud. ADS-B for IFR aircraft only does not help this.
2. I haven't done a full search, but the look I've had at reported GA near mid air collisions suggests that none would have been avoided with ADS-B fitted.
The area where ADS-B helps is in remote areas outside radar coverage. Its a nice feeling knowing you are on someone's radar in outback areas, but there are other mechanisms and you are still not provided with any better traffic warning with respect to VFR aircraft.
Australia is the only country in the world that is mandating ADS-B for all IFR aircraft in all airspace types at all levels.
