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Old 21st Apr 2014, 01:33
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Nautilus Blue:
Single engine over water and at the Flight Level of Death TM
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Do you mind explaining your idea of "FL of death".
Pelosh,

I dare say he was having a tounge in cheek go at statements made by Dick Smith in this thread:

http://www.pprune.org/pacific-genera...le-deaths.html

I don't think he really considers FL280 to be the flight level of death.
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Old 21st Apr 2014, 04:25
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Thanks CT,
I did follow DIck's ADSB thread but was thinking we were going again down the line SE vs ME ......very popular recently.....

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Old 21st Apr 2014, 23:03
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It wasn't a medivac - a short sales tour.
What a waste of money.

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Old 21st Apr 2014, 23:49
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What a waste of money
Sales tours are generally paid for by the aircraft manufacturer. The charter rate for the aircraft probably ensured some extra funds for the RFDS.

The only concern would be coverage for the RFDS while the aircraft was out of the country.
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Old 22nd Apr 2014, 01:29
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Can the RFDS do charter, maybe that region has a AOC
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Old 22nd Apr 2014, 01:37
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It's not charter when someone (manufacturer) borrows your aircraft for a private operation.

Just ask Bevan666, he was at the pointy end and can surely set everyone straight
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Old 22nd Apr 2014, 02:13
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I see, so if the PC12 was borrowed then no money changed hands for the aircraft or pilot so it wasn't a charter
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Old 22nd Apr 2014, 02:19
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I see, so if the PC12 was borrowed then no money changed hands for the aircraft or pilot so it wasn't a charter
If I own a charter aircraft and it's used at ABC Air Charter which is a company that I own, I can loan it to you for $1,000 an hour and you can do whatever you want with it (except carry poached Lobster and Abalone) and fly it yourself. No AOC required for that.
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Old 22nd Apr 2014, 05:40
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fkn love how some are so quick jump to the default "how was that legal?" position. typifies so many in au aviation

onya bevan hoped you enjoyed the trip to nz
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Old 22nd Apr 2014, 06:10
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It was an ace trip

Just got to get myself into the left seat now..
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Old 22nd Apr 2014, 06:19
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They seem to have been pushing the PC-12 here in NZ pretty hard lately. Much interest that you're aware of Bevan?
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Old 22nd Apr 2014, 07:17
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The only concern would be coverage for the RFDS while the aircraft was out of the country.
Yes - & I am sure there are plenty of other PC12's in the country that could have done the promo tour in its place.

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Old 22nd Apr 2014, 09:07
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What a waste of money
Sales tours are generally paid for by the aircraft manufacturer. The charter rate for the aircraft probably ensured some extra funds for the RFDS.

Oakape posted the above so I would of thought the AOC comment was fair
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Old 23rd Apr 2014, 03:36
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Could it be that they wanted to show off a medically configured PC12 for the aeromedical guys in NZ? It would be a pretty good replacement for a PA31 for example!
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Old 23rd Apr 2014, 04:05
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Perhaps they wanted to show the very latest variant of the PC-12 and that was the only one available in the region!

PS: Must have been a great trip, you gotta love a good junket!
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Old 23rd Apr 2014, 04:35
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It would be a pretty good replacement for a PA31 for example!
Wally might disagree, one has 1 engine and the other has 2.... depends on what you mean by "good" replacement.
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Old 23rd Apr 2014, 05:02
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It would be a pretty good replacement for a PA31 for example!
A KingAir would be a better option!

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Old 23rd Apr 2014, 06:08
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Good in the fact that it is an aircraft that is able to carry more, easy to load & unload with that big cargo door at the back & of course can cruise higher & faster than a PA31!
Having said that the KingAir can do all that and has 2 engines!
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Old 23rd Apr 2014, 08:15
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The two advantages the PC-12 has over the Kingair, are the ergonomic cockpit layout and the little door at the front, it'd be nice not to have to push past the pax on the way through!
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Old 23rd Apr 2014, 10:23
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And how does pc12 price compare with king air, and running costs compare?
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