MERGED: Skydivers Feared Dead In Light Plane Crash Caboolture
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Questions were previously asked about trim position in a 206 being set incorrectly and if it can be overcome. I am in no way implying that it's the reason for this 206 crash but have linked to an NTSB report below to answer the question about trim setting.
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Yr right.. I'm surprised you heard this, did someone at the ATSB tell you this information? Will you be giving this information at the Coronial Inquest and or are you an ATSB witness?
Of course you should realise that by posting this information you have directly implied a raft of indictable offences by the aircraft operator (or maintenance provider) as we all know about the mandatory seat stop airworthiness directive that effectively eliminates this issue.
You are a brave man or woman.
Of course you should realise that by posting this information you have directly implied a raft of indictable offences by the aircraft operator (or maintenance provider) as we all know about the mandatory seat stop airworthiness directive that effectively eliminates this issue.
You are a brave man or woman.
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Yr right.. I'm surprised you heard this
It is not an offence to discuss publicly available information or to have an opinion..I don't know who XXX's legal advisor is!
The seat info was published: See below
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There's a big difference between "a loose seat may have caused the crash," versus "it appears the pilots seat track had no stops."
I can't read the article however from memory a loose seat was reported by the previous pilot. That is a far cry from missing stops.
What you specifically write has significant impacts. A loose seat does not mean it had no stops; no stops means negligence by the maintenance provider or operator; a loose seat on a previous flight implicates the pilot from the previous flight if they didn't report it.
Just be careful with the use of throw-away lines as they can be misinterpreted.
I can't read the article however from memory a loose seat was reported by the previous pilot. That is a far cry from missing stops.
What you specifically write has significant impacts. A loose seat does not mean it had no stops; no stops means negligence by the maintenance provider or operator; a loose seat on a previous flight implicates the pilot from the previous flight if they didn't report it.
Just be careful with the use of throw-away lines as they can be misinterpreted.
Hmmm, nope, there is no problem whatsoever with what he said XXX.
At best, the operator could attempt to sue if a subsequent investigation rules this out as a possibility. But that is not going to happen, because the operator will have a lot more on their mind at the moment, and in coming years, than the theories posed on PPrune.
yr right, I have heard this too, though not directly, I believe the witness is helping the ATSB with the investigation.
At best, the operator could attempt to sue if a subsequent investigation rules this out as a possibility. But that is not going to happen, because the operator will have a lot more on their mind at the moment, and in coming years, than the theories posed on PPrune.
yr right, I have heard this too, though not directly, I believe the witness is helping the ATSB with the investigation.
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I hope that whoever is at fault be it a pilot who didn't write it up, a mechanic that didn't fix it or an operator that said "wait till the next annual," has a good lawyer as those parents had 6 kids between them not to mention the tandems and pilots families.
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I hope that whoever is at fault be it a pilot who didn't write it up, a mechanic that didn't fix it or an operator that said "wait till the next annual," has a good lawyer as those parents had 6 kids between them not to mention the tandems and pilots families.
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Perhaps it's time to relate the owners story to balance out the opinions.
http://www.melbournedailystar.com/tag/crash/
I'm sure the ATSB will find the most probable cause in the final report.
Let's not get too carried away with personal attacks over what is largely opinions, anyway.
http://www.melbournedailystar.com/tag/crash/
I'm sure the ATSB will find the most probable cause in the final report.
Let's not get too carried away with personal attacks over what is largely opinions, anyway.
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Investigation: AO-2014-053 - Collision with terrain involving Cessna U206G, VH-FRT, Caboolture Airfield, Qld on 22 March 2014
With the report continuously getting pushed back and with some time now since the accident, does anyone on here have any reasonably certain knowledge as to what actually caused it?
With the report continuously getting pushed back and with some time now since the accident, does anyone on here have any reasonably certain knowledge as to what actually caused it?
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Yes I do. The ATSB know as well (I know they know), I am just astounded the report has not been released.
It will be interesting to see if they come out and tell it straight or just waffle around.
If you really want to discuss it PM me and I will talk to you by phone. Alternatively I am pretty sure (I think
) myself and others have explained it somewhere in this thread.
It will be interesting to see if they come out and tell it straight or just waffle around.
If you really want to discuss it PM me and I will talk to you by phone. Alternatively I am pretty sure (I think
) myself and others have explained it somewhere in this thread.
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The additional investigative work reported in our 19 October 2015 update has been completed. Quality assurance of the investigation and draft report is being finalised before ATSB Commission approval of the report for release to directly involved parties (DIP).
The draft investigation report is now anticipated for release to DIPs for comment by mid‑April 2016. Feedback from those parties over the 28-day DIP period on the factual accuracy of the draft report will be considered for inclusion in the final report, which is anticipated to be released to the public in June 2016.
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The draft investigation report is now anticipated for release to DIPs for comment on the factual accuracy of the report in July 2016. Feedback from those parties over the 28-day DIP period will be considered for inclusion in the final report, which is anticipated to be released to the public in September 2016.