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Old 29th Mar 2014, 17:49
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Questions were previously asked about trim position in a 206 being set incorrectly and if it can be overcome. I am in no way implying that it's the reason for this 206 crash but have linked to an NTSB report below to answer the question about trim setting.

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Old 9th Apr 2014, 14:18
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was told today it appears the pilots seat tracks had no stops and the seat has move back.
All lost over a 20 cent part
sadness
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Old 10th Apr 2014, 14:28
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Trim!

The description in the FAA C206 accident fits what I saw at CAB,,,
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Old 10th Apr 2014, 22:17
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Yr right.. I'm surprised you heard this, did someone at the ATSB tell you this information? Will you be giving this information at the Coronial Inquest and or are you an ATSB witness?

Of course you should realise that by posting this information you have directly implied a raft of indictable offences by the aircraft operator (or maintenance provider) as we all know about the mandatory seat stop airworthiness directive that effectively eliminates this issue.

You are a brave man or woman.

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Old 10th Apr 2014, 23:41
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I was told this and also was told by a friend that it was on the abc news in Brisbane as we'll.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 01:24
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Yr right.. I'm surprised you heard this
I am not surprised at all that he heard this. All you need to do is read the accident threads on this forum to realise that well meaning folks jump to amazing conclusions then spread them as fact. Tis the reason I seldom comment on accident threads.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 03:16
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It is not an offence to discuss publicly available information or to have an opinion..I don't know who XXX's legal advisor is!

The seat info was published: See below

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Old 11th Apr 2014, 03:54
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There's a big difference between "a loose seat may have caused the crash," versus "it appears the pilots seat track had no stops."

I can't read the article however from memory a loose seat was reported by the previous pilot. That is a far cry from missing stops.

What you specifically write has significant impacts. A loose seat does not mean it had no stops; no stops means negligence by the maintenance provider or operator; a loose seat on a previous flight implicates the pilot from the previous flight if they didn't report it.

Just be careful with the use of throw-away lines as they can be misinterpreted.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 04:07
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Hmmm, nope, there is no problem whatsoever with what he said XXX.

At best, the operator could attempt to sue if a subsequent investigation rules this out as a possibility. But that is not going to happen, because the operator will have a lot more on their mind at the moment, and in coming years, than the theories posed on PPRuNe.

yr right, I have heard this too, though not directly, I believe the witness is helping the ATSB with the investigation.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 05:03
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I hope that whoever is at fault be it a pilot who didn't write it up, a mechanic that didn't fix it or an operator that said "wait till the next annual," has a good lawyer as those parents had 6 kids between them not to mention the tandems and pilots families.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 07:00
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I hope that whoever is at fault be it a pilot who didn't write it up, a mechanic that didn't fix it or an operator that said "wait till the next annual," has a good lawyer as those parents had 6 kids between them not to mention the tandems and pilots families.
What is 'it' XXX? Careful now, lets not jump to conclusions. I hope you have a good lawyer.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 08:01
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Don't be a tosser blatantliar.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 08:19
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Perhaps it's time to relate the owners story to balance out the opinions.

http://www.melbournedailystar.com/tag/crash/

I'm sure the ATSB will find the most probable cause in the final report.
Let's not get too carried away with personal attacks over what is largely opinions, anyway.
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Old 11th Apr 2014, 09:19
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It was stated on the abc news I was told. It then must have been deleted from there program listing. End of the day sad ness
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Old 16th Sep 2015, 04:54
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Investigation: AO-2014-053 - Collision with terrain involving Cessna U206G, VH-FRT, Caboolture Airfield, Qld on 22 March 2014

With the report continuously getting pushed back and with some time now since the accident, does anyone on here have any reasonably certain knowledge as to what actually caused it?
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Old 16th Sep 2015, 06:52
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Yes I do. The ATSB know as well (I know they know), I am just astounded the report has not been released.

It will be interesting to see if they come out and tell it straight or just waffle around.

If you really want to discuss it PM me and I will talk to you by phone. Alternatively I am pretty sure (I think ) myself and others have explained it somewhere in this thread.
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 11:21
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anticipated to be released to the public in February 2016.
Any new evidence rumored to have come to light that might be impeding the release of this report?
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Old 2nd Mar 2016, 01:47
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Originally Posted by FoolCoarsePitch View Post
Any new evidence rumored to have come to light that might be impeding the release of this report?
Updated: 1 March 2016

The additional investigative work reported in our 19 October 2015 update has been completed. Quality assurance of the investigation and draft report is being finalised before ATSB Commission approval of the report for release to directly involved parties (DIP).

The draft investigation report is now anticipated for release to DIPs for comment by mid‑April 2016. Feedback from those parties over the 28-day DIP period on the factual accuracy of the draft report will be considered for inclusion in the final report, which is anticipated to be released to the public in June 2016.
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 22:36
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The draft investigation report is now anticipated for release to DIPs for comment on the factual accuracy of the report in July 2016. Feedback from those parties over the 28-day DIP period will be considered for inclusion in the final report, which is anticipated to be released to the public in September 2016.
Why do they continue to lie?
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Old 15th Apr 2017, 10:37
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Still no report .......
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