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Old 4th Feb 2014, 06:02
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Australian Government VIP Aircraft Fleet

With the Government reviewing its VIP Aircraft Fleet,


Airbus A330, Boeing 777 as next VIP jet for Australian PM? - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller


would the Boeing 787 Test Aircraft LN6 (N787ZA) be suitably priced to be considered for the VIP fleet?




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It'll be the 330.

If it happens. Commonality with the KC30.
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Whatever type it is - I hope they get a respectable company (that won't go out of business) to do the cabin.
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if I was the prime minister I'd get Dick Smith to fly me.
airservices would change their attitudes then
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And you wouldn't need to worry about costly ADS-B upgrades to your Prime Ministerial jet!
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if I was the prime minister I'd get Dick Smith to fly me.
airservices would change their attitudes then
If I was Prime Minister, and was forced to have Dick Smith as my pilot, then I think I would probably resign!
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330s probably a bit little.
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How about these di#khead politicians use domestic and international cattle class like everyone else? If it's good enough for us it should be good enough for them. They are always banging on about saving money so why don't they lead by example and make a sacrifice themselves, no more personal aircraft, no more limousines, no more taxpayer funded extravagance
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Is cattle class that bit downstairs without the showers and bar? Who would want to go down there?
Grusome would sort this out for you Ernie. Let him know what you want.
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Geez you're a funny bugger Don. Old Gru's a bit busy with the golf these days. The upstairs bar might be a bit much!
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Why the bloody hell should us tax payers be paying for a larger aircraft so that journalists can travel with the prime minister? Shouldn't the journalists be paying for themselves to get to wherever the prime minister is going?
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Journo's paying

PULL UP -TERRAIN. Do you know they don't pay?
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When journos travel on the VIP aircraft, they get charged a near commercial rate so they aren't travelling at taxpayers expense.
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I've never seen a more cheaply put together cabin than what's in the RAAF BBJs, and that was when they were new. I'd hate to see how they look inside now. The cabin on the CL604s is MUCH nicer.

The seats the journos/hangers-on sit in at the back of the BBJ are absolute rubbish. Comfort wise, the journos are be better off in economy on JQ.
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Politicians using scheduled airlines?

What? Do you think this "age of entitlement is over" stuff applies to them, too?

Sheesh...
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I'll stir the pot ....

As a shareholder I would not be impressed to find members of a firm's leadership team sitting on their @rses in a lounge awaiting boarding. I would much rather they were getting from A to B promptly, privately, securely, discreetly. Going about the business of generating me a dividend or capital growth, not waiting for someone else's timetable to apply.

Why would I object to the nation's 'CEO', 'CFO', 'COO' et al traveling similarly? It's a poor use of their time to sit in a lounge or meaninglessly fill another 3 hours before their flight to wherever is due to depart. It astounds me that so may of us have such a big chip on the shoulder about this.
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Why the bloody hell should us tax payers be paying for a larger aircraft so that journalists can travel with the prime minister? Shouldn't the journalists be paying for themselves to get to wherever the prime minister is going?
That's easy to answer.

Fears For Australian Journalists and Diplomats In Indonesian Plane Crash | AustralianPolitics.com
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The last two posts are exactly why.

End of story.
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Tonys travel rules

New government says no first class travel allowed and any offers for an upgrade to be declined.
Trips costing over $20k to be scrutinised by the top dogs.

They also require that air mile points are not to be collected, surely this is a waste of taxpayers money. Can't the air miles be collected and used to reduce price of future trips?

Allocation of Award status points is allowed.


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Range-wise, the B787 BBJ would be obvious choice, but the A330 has commonality



Boeing Business Jets Delivers First Two BBJ 787-8s of 2014

Boeing [NYSE: BA] Business Jets (BBJ) celebrated the first two BBJ 787-8 deliveries of 2014. The deliveries, made over the past week to separate undisclosed customers, mark the second and third BBJ 787 airplanes delivered to date.

"It's terrific to see two BBJ 787s deliver within a week," said Capt. Steve Taylor, president, Boeing Business Jets. "The BBJ 787 joins the BBJ family, a full line of the most capable airplanes in the VIP market. The 787's combination of phenomenal range, high cruise speed, low cabin altitude, big windows and ultra-quiet cabin make the 787 ideal for BBJ customers."

As awe-inspiring as its commercial counterpart, the BBJ 787 takes advantage of technological advances such as lightweight composite structures and a cabin environment designed for new heights in passenger comfort. It also features increased head room, cleaner air, enormous cargo space and breakthrough fuel efficiency. The BBJ 787-8 has a range of about 9,260 nautical miles (17,150 km).

"2014 will be a very exciting year for BBJ with many major milestones to celebrate," Taylor said. "In addition to the deliveries of three more BBJ 787-8s, the first BBJ 747-8 we delivered last year will enter into service with its completed custom interior later in the year."

The first BBJ 787-8 was delivered in December 2013. To date, customers have ordered 13 BBJ 787s, with deliveries occuring through 2018.

Boeing Business Jets delivers the airplanes to customers unpainted and without an interior. A completion center of the customer's choosing installs the jet's VIP interior.

Boeing Business Jets offers a wide variety of ultra-large-cabin, long-range airplanes perfectly suited for the private jet market. The product line includes the BBJ, BBJ 2 and BBJ 3 – high-performance derivatives of the commercially successful Next-Generation 737 airplane family and the new 737 MAX family – as well as Boeing twin-aisle airplanes including the 747-8, 767, 777 and 787.

Source : The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA)
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