Is Torres Strait Air the new Barrier?
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Is Torres Strait Air the new Barrier?
Saw and ad for drivers. Sounds like they don't want any experienced multi guys just people with endo's and enough time on type that they don't have to ICUS anyone.
Is this the new "normal"?
Is this the new "normal"?
Doubt it! heard its a very tidy operation they have planned.... Just willing to give new people a chance and doesn't expect everyone to be an astronaut.. Will no doubt ICUS new people, don't know of any operator that is willing to just hand over the keys...
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Evening All,
Time to put a few rumours and misconceptions to bed, right now, before this all gets out of hand. The AOC has not yet been printed, yet the slagging has started.
I am the nominated Chief Pilot of Torres Strait Air.
Pilochute,
We have advertised without any great minimums for a few reasons.
If you had 4000 TT, 3000 ME, 6 CIR renewals, etc., would you be applying for a Horn island BN2 position? We prefer to train our pilots the way we want them to operate, not how they have been operating for a number of years. Indeed this is the new normal.
ChaseIt,
Many thanks for your kind words. It is definitely going to be a very tidy operation. As many will be aware, Torres Strait operations have historically been difficult for many and varied reasons. We aim to start out on the front foot, and maintain a very high standard into the future.
Airwolf117,
Time to get some new contacts in the Straits; do you know who the owners of Torres Strait Air are? Definitely not Aerotropics; didn’t they close shop many years ago? Indeed, no one wants a shonky operator. When I agreed to join this company it was with a firm commitment that things would be done to a standard that will pass any scrutiny, including CASA. The buck stops with the Chief Pilot.
Rich-Fine-Green
Many thanks for your kind words. We are definitely 'Having a go' and do not intend to rely on luck.
This is the only correspondence I will enter into. I have no intent to continue in a to-and-fro with all and sundry; please check back in 12 months to see the writing on the wall.
Signed,
Paul Hughes
Chief Pilot (Nominated)
Torres Strait Air Pty Ltd
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Time to put a few rumours and misconceptions to bed, right now, before this all gets out of hand. The AOC has not yet been printed, yet the slagging has started.
I am the nominated Chief Pilot of Torres Strait Air.
Pilochute,
We have advertised without any great minimums for a few reasons.
If you had 4000 TT, 3000 ME, 6 CIR renewals, etc., would you be applying for a Horn island BN2 position? We prefer to train our pilots the way we want them to operate, not how they have been operating for a number of years. Indeed this is the new normal.
ChaseIt,
Many thanks for your kind words. It is definitely going to be a very tidy operation. As many will be aware, Torres Strait operations have historically been difficult for many and varied reasons. We aim to start out on the front foot, and maintain a very high standard into the future.
Led by an experienced management team, Torres Strait Air offer a friendly and supportive workplace with a focus on quality training and embedded quality and safety systems. There is a strong focus on promoting a just culture and a continuous process of improvement. In return, we expect all aircrew to display a very high standard of safety and operational excellence.
Airwolf117,
Time to get some new contacts in the Straits; do you know who the owners of Torres Strait Air are? Definitely not Aerotropics; didn’t they close shop many years ago? Indeed, no one wants a shonky operator. When I agreed to join this company it was with a firm commitment that things would be done to a standard that will pass any scrutiny, including CASA. The buck stops with the Chief Pilot.
Rich-Fine-Green
Many thanks for your kind words. We are definitely 'Having a go' and do not intend to rely on luck.
This is the only correspondence I will enter into. I have no intent to continue in a to-and-fro with all and sundry; please check back in 12 months to see the writing on the wall.
Signed,
Paul Hughes
Chief Pilot (Nominated)
Torres Strait Air Pty Ltd
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10/10 for these guys having a go. Nice to also see Paul willing to respond publicly and put his money where his mouth is 
I hope they do well. If they do what Paul says they want to do then they should be able to provide a good culture while traversing the CAsA Nazi Regime embedded in FNQ.
Good luck boys.
I hope they do well. If they do what Paul says they want to do then they should be able to provide a good culture while traversing the CAsA Nazi Regime embedded in FNQ.
Good luck boys.
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In that case, good luck and hope the Straits offers you many opportunities
Keep us posted on your progress then!
No offence was intended and I wish you and your company much success!
In that case, good luck and hope the Straits offers you many opportunities
Keep us posted on your progress then!No offence was intended and I wish you and your company much success!
Kudos to Paul for sticking his head up above the trench knowing how on this forum just love to take pit shots an anyone.
Isn't it sad how we as Aussies are so quick to dismiss or denigrate anyone who is brave enough to have a go. The owners who are risking a not inconsiderable sum of $ to get a new op up and running, and someone who has put his hand up to be CP, knowing the hammering you get not only from CASA but from the "experts" on here.
The difference between Aussies and yanks is we Aussies say a new business won't work, don't patronise it them say told you so when it fails, the Yanks, who we are so often critical about see a new business, encourage new businesses and try them out, give them a fair chance of succeeding.
Best of luck to Torres Straight Air.
Isn't it sad how we as Aussies are so quick to dismiss or denigrate anyone who is brave enough to have a go. The owners who are risking a not inconsiderable sum of $ to get a new op up and running, and someone who has put his hand up to be CP, knowing the hammering you get not only from CASA but from the "experts" on here.
The difference between Aussies and yanks is we Aussies say a new business won't work, don't patronise it them say told you so when it fails, the Yanks, who we are so often critical about see a new business, encourage new businesses and try them out, give them a fair chance of succeeding.
Best of luck to Torres Straight Air.
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Paul,
If your going to put the effort into training up Pilots to your standards and giving them a break into Aviation, do you think a handshake and return of service of say a year or two is the way to go up there?
The company sounds exciting and hope it does well.
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If your going to put the effort into training up Pilots to your standards and giving them a break into Aviation, do you think a handshake and return of service of say a year or two is the way to go up there?
The company sounds exciting and hope it does well.
C2H etc
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......do you think a handshake and return of service of say a year or two is the way to go up there?
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Paul,
I am just a little curious as to the "desirable" criteria. You claim that the mins are low and you want to train people your way but you ask for 6 months commercial time and short strip experience with preferably an AC50 or BN2 endo? Neither of those two aircraft are common for people to posses endo's on unless a company has already paid for it. Meaning that someone else has put their company stamp on them. Something you say you want to avoid? I know six months commercial isn't 4000TT like you say but changing people to fly the way you want I have found to be a bit more difficult than I thought. Even if they are fresh out of flight school. I know because I have been given that pleasure just recently.
If the add said 1200TT I would find it more in line with what most would expect from an experience required perspective.
Don't get me wrong I wish you all the best and hope maybe you give a few newbies a start too.
I am just a little curious as to the "desirable" criteria. You claim that the mins are low and you want to train people your way but you ask for 6 months commercial time and short strip experience with preferably an AC50 or BN2 endo? Neither of those two aircraft are common for people to posses endo's on unless a company has already paid for it. Meaning that someone else has put their company stamp on them. Something you say you want to avoid? I know six months commercial isn't 4000TT like you say but changing people to fly the way you want I have found to be a bit more difficult than I thought. Even if they are fresh out of flight school. I know because I have been given that pleasure just recently.
If the add said 1200TT I would find it more in line with what most would expect from an experience required perspective.
Don't get me wrong I wish you all the best and hope maybe you give a few newbies a start too.
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A few observations,
Pilotchute, you started this thread with,
Which seems at odds with another post from you a little over 13 months ago...do you have a coherent opinion, or were you just trolling?
Skystar320 & Captain Ethanol
If you require further, why not check the AFAP advertisement, it states both the intended types, and includes a statement that 'Applicants should be willing to live and work in a remote area for a minimum of one year.' Even more polite and professional would be to send a PM or email to the supplied address. I don't remember the ad stating 'Please direct all correspondence via Pprune.'
I think that Paul made his position on this thread clear, when he posted,
Pilotchute, you started this thread with,
Saw and ad for drivers. Sounds like they don't want any experienced multi guys just people with endo's and enough time on type that they don't have to ICUS anyone.
Time wasting job adverts
Why is it some companies require over the top mins when frankly if I had that sort of time I wouldn't be going anywhere near them...
... a lot of CP's are still stuck in the 80's and think that anyone with 3000TT with 500 multi would jump at the chance to fly their beat up old PA31.
Why is it some companies require over the top mins when frankly if I had that sort of time I wouldn't be going anywhere near them...
... a lot of CP's are still stuck in the 80's and think that anyone with 3000TT with 500 multi would jump at the chance to fly their beat up old PA31.
If you require further, why not check the AFAP advertisement, it states both the intended types, and includes a statement that 'Applicants should be willing to live and work in a remote area for a minimum of one year.' Even more polite and professional would be to send a PM or email to the supplied address. I don't remember the ad stating 'Please direct all correspondence via Pprune.'
I think that Paul made his position on this thread clear, when he posted,
This is the only correspondence I will enter into. I have no intent to continue in a to-and-fro with all and sundry; please check back in 12 months to see the writing on the wall.
Instead of winging and picking the guts out of the advert, why don't you guys just apply if your interested or just get on with life. Obviously some people on this forum have nothing better to do other than "audit" every post and then publicly spill all their findings to the whole world, which by the way are personal opinions only in most cases! Pprune is full of this crap.
Good luck to Paul and his team.
Good luck to Paul and his team.
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