ARO & WSO salaries around Aust
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ARO & WSO salaries around Aust
Im curious to know the salaries & wages of safety reporting officers & works safety officers at airports around Aust SYD, MEL, ADL, PER, DRW, BNE
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From what I know, around $80k at major airports seems to be a ballpark figure.
If you are lucky to score a gig on a mining company owned airport it will probably be anything from 20 - 30 k more.
If you are lucky to score a gig on a mining company owned airport it will probably be anything from 20 - 30 k more.
MEL - WSO $55, ARO $80+
SYD - WSO, $60K, ARO $90K
Mining field $100+
SYD - WSO, $60K, ARO $90K
Mining field $100+
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ML WSO's are employed on casual basis. Hours very from 40-60 hours fortnightly.
I remember during our busier periods we were working 60 hours +.
I think 50-55k is on the ball
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I remember during our busier periods we were working 60 hours +.
I think 50-55k is on the ball
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Very optimistic re $100K+ on mining aerodromes.
Most mine-site ARO's are employed by facility management companies like Sodexho and ESS, and in between strip inspections they can be found cleaning dongas or washing dishes. Even on a 2:1 roster they very rarely make above $85K.
Aerodrome Managers on mine-sites can make circa $100K but the majority of mining strips, even certified aerodromes, employ their aerodrome managers/ARO's as 'utilities.' (Inspect runway, load bags, clean donga....)
Many misconceptions around about salaries on mine-sites and that is one of them.
Most mine-site ARO's are employed by facility management companies like Sodexho and ESS, and in between strip inspections they can be found cleaning dongas or washing dishes. Even on a 2:1 roster they very rarely make above $85K.
Aerodrome Managers on mine-sites can make circa $100K but the majority of mining strips, even certified aerodromes, employ their aerodrome managers/ARO's as 'utilities.' (Inspect runway, load bags, clean donga....)
Many misconceptions around about salaries on mine-sites and that is one of them.
Dreamer,
Agree that a lot of sites use the likes of ESS, Sodexo etc. A lot of the bigger players though like RTIO, BHP, FMG actually employ experienced people to run their airports rather than someone who will go back to making beds or washing dishes 30 mins after departure.
The ground handling function is remaining with the service companies. however airport operators are starting to learn that employing a bare assed ARO to look after their principle asset that gets all their staff in and out is maybe not a very wise choice. Especially when the NCNs start turning up on the GMs desk.
Agree that a lot of sites use the likes of ESS, Sodexo etc. A lot of the bigger players though like RTIO, BHP, FMG actually employ experienced people to run their airports rather than someone who will go back to making beds or washing dishes 30 mins after departure.
The ground handling function is remaining with the service companies. however airport operators are starting to learn that employing a bare assed ARO to look after their principle asset that gets all their staff in and out is maybe not a very wise choice. Especially when the NCNs start turning up on the GMs desk.
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I would imagine that if remote ARO's at certified aerodromes are dish washers then I am surprised the NCN's haven't been rolling in? Then again CASA inspectors prefer to 'surveil' the mainline airports as they are usually located near better accommodation, better locations for golf and a good perve, better restaurants and they earn better frequent flyer points.
377, those comments whilst mildly amusing are totally incorrect. The CASA aerodrome inspectors have a requirement to maintain surveillance on all certified airports regardless of proximity to comfy hotels or being serviced by preferred RPT carriers.
The fact is though, that just like everyone else, they too have budgetary constraints that may preclude them going to every airport, every year. Much like FOIs who maybe miss an audit on a charter or training operation. The squeaky wheel, or one that has a few NCNs on the books will be their focus of attention.
The fact is though, that just like everyone else, they too have budgetary constraints that may preclude them going to every airport, every year. Much like FOIs who maybe miss an audit on a charter or training operation. The squeaky wheel, or one that has a few NCNs on the books will be their focus of attention.
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There is nothing amusing about taxpayer money getting blown, and incorrect I am not. Each field office has its own 'system' for making CASA work for you, not you working for CASA. Each employee gets to keep any accumulated frequent flyer points, hence the manipulation of the system. There is an old saying within the sleepy hollow; 'regulation by accumulation' (of points).
Your comment confirms you either work for CASA or only know one or two inspectors, you certainly are blind to how the system works, and that's not a criticism mate, don't get me wrong, but on this occasion you are a touch off the pace that's all.
Your comment confirms you either work for CASA or only know one or two inspectors, you certainly are blind to how the system works, and that's not a criticism mate, don't get me wrong, but on this occasion you are a touch off the pace that's all.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. But for the record, I don't work for CASA (couldn't handle the pay cut) and I do know quite a few more than one or two AD and FO inspectors.
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Nobody at CASA (or any other federal government agency) gets to keep any frequent flyer points from government travel. Most agencies never allowed it in the first place, and for those that did an end was put it that years ago.
http://www.finance.gov.au/procuremen...Fact-Sheet.pdf
http://www.finance.gov.au/procuremen...Fact-Sheet.pdf
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Bankrunner, sorry mate but regardless of the link you have posted you are 100% incorrect. CASA inspectors and executives keep all points accrued, well they did up until at least up until 12 months ago anyway. I know this for absolute fact.
YPJT, the figures thrown around this thread for ARO's are between $50k to $100k approximately. CASA aerodrome inspectors earn between $95 to $115k approximately. Team leaders etc can earn up to $140k. This excludes super of around 15.75%, 5 weeks annual leave, the additional week shutdown over Xmas and travel expenses and cash allowance of around $130 per day.
If you boys really do know some aerodrome inspectors I think you will be surprised at their answer to these figures I provided. That answer is correct.
So I am not sure how one would be taking a pay cut by joining the Regulator?
YPJT, the figures thrown around this thread for ARO's are between $50k to $100k approximately. CASA aerodrome inspectors earn between $95 to $115k approximately. Team leaders etc can earn up to $140k. This excludes super of around 15.75%, 5 weeks annual leave, the additional week shutdown over Xmas and travel expenses and cash allowance of around $130 per day.
If you boys really do know some aerodrome inspectors I think you will be surprised at their answer to these figures I provided. That answer is correct.
So I am not sure how one would be taking a pay cut by joining the Regulator?
Yes mate, nothing wrong with a bit of robust discussion.
From my experience with CASA inspectors and what they have told me is that the screws have certainly tightened on their travel entitlements.
It is usually me pulling out the company credit card for dinner or drinks rather than them saying "Kevin/Julia/Kevin/Tony is paying". One guy I am meeting in USA next year is having difficulty aligning a planned work trip with his holidays. There is a chance he may be forced to fly home and then pay his own airfare back again. That is just sheer bastardry for the sake of it.
Back to AROs / WSOs, great job, very satisfying especially if you can get it with the right outfit. Keep an eye on seek.com. Quite often advertised there but personally, my advice is steer clear of the service companies like ESS, Sodexo, ISS, Toll etc. They will expect the world and not remunerate you appropriately for the level of responsibility.
From my experience with CASA inspectors and what they have told me is that the screws have certainly tightened on their travel entitlements.
It is usually me pulling out the company credit card for dinner or drinks rather than them saying "Kevin/Julia/Kevin/Tony is paying". One guy I am meeting in USA next year is having difficulty aligning a planned work trip with his holidays. There is a chance he may be forced to fly home and then pay his own airfare back again. That is just sheer bastardry for the sake of it.
Back to AROs / WSOs, great job, very satisfying especially if you can get it with the right outfit. Keep an eye on seek.com. Quite often advertised there but personally, my advice is steer clear of the service companies like ESS, Sodexo, ISS, Toll etc. They will expect the world and not remunerate you appropriately for the level of responsibility.
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