Part 61 - Special Pilot Licence
Do you mean this one Griffo??
New implementation timetable for licensing suite
Changes are being made to the implementation schedule for the new licensing suite in Parts 61, 64, 141 and 142 of the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations.
The primary reason for the changes is the need to give the aviation industry more time to prepare for the commencement of the new regulations.
Despite CASA’s education and information campaign on the new licensing regulations many pilots and people working in flying training are only starting to understand the new rules.
While the new regulations do not make major changes to existing practices it is clear more time for education and information communication is required.
CASA consulted widely over a lengthy period of time on the new licensing suite. Over a number of years CASA issued a variety of consultation documents, called for and analysed comments and suggestions and held meetings and discussions with the aviation industry on the proposed changes.
The new regulations were made on 14 February 2013, with a commencement date of 4 December 2013.
Despite the long lead times and the many opportunities for feedback in the past, CASA received a relatively large number of comments and constructive suggestions after the new regulations were made in February.
As a result CASA proposed a package of amendments to clarify the intent of the regulations, correct any anomalies and make improvements which will benefit the aviation industry. Due to issues beyond CASA’s control it has not been possible to make these amendments before 4 December 2013.
Taking all these factors into account CASA has decided to change the commencement date of the licensing suite to 1 September 2014.
The new timetable for the commencement and transition of the licensing suite will give the aviation industry the opportunity to provide more feedback to CASA on implementation issues.
CASA will ensure the highest possible safety outcomes continue to be achieved with a reasonable level of regulatory requirements. This is in line with the Federal Government’s policy on reducing regulatory burdens on costs to industry.
More information on the licensing suite.
Media contact:
Peter Gibson
Mobile: 0419 296 446
Email: [email protected]
Ref: MR7813
ps Interesting last paragraph
Changes are being made to the implementation schedule for the new licensing suite in Parts 61, 64, 141 and 142 of the Civil Aviation Safety Regulations.
The primary reason for the changes is the need to give the aviation industry more time to prepare for the commencement of the new regulations.
Despite CASA’s education and information campaign on the new licensing regulations many pilots and people working in flying training are only starting to understand the new rules.
While the new regulations do not make major changes to existing practices it is clear more time for education and information communication is required.
CASA consulted widely over a lengthy period of time on the new licensing suite. Over a number of years CASA issued a variety of consultation documents, called for and analysed comments and suggestions and held meetings and discussions with the aviation industry on the proposed changes.
The new regulations were made on 14 February 2013, with a commencement date of 4 December 2013.
Despite the long lead times and the many opportunities for feedback in the past, CASA received a relatively large number of comments and constructive suggestions after the new regulations were made in February.
As a result CASA proposed a package of amendments to clarify the intent of the regulations, correct any anomalies and make improvements which will benefit the aviation industry. Due to issues beyond CASA’s control it has not been possible to make these amendments before 4 December 2013.
Taking all these factors into account CASA has decided to change the commencement date of the licensing suite to 1 September 2014.
The new timetable for the commencement and transition of the licensing suite will give the aviation industry the opportunity to provide more feedback to CASA on implementation issues.
CASA will ensure the highest possible safety outcomes continue to be achieved with a reasonable level of regulatory requirements. This is in line with the Federal Government’s policy on reducing regulatory burdens on costs to industry.
More information on the licensing suite.
Media contact:
Peter Gibson
Mobile: 0419 296 446
Email: [email protected]
Ref: MR7813
ps Interesting last paragraph
After blaming the industry at the start, he gets around to the real reasons about halfway through. 
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Wow, after asking my original question I never would have thought that the answer would be "never mind, nothing is changing". Still, quite a few people on here don't seem too surprised so I guess I have a lot to learn about CASA 
Thanks for that Mr Sarcs,
Am 'away' at the mo, and don't know how to 'right click' on me I-pad to copy and paste, or supply the link...
Dinasoor....
Ta
That is an 'interesting' last para....by gum...
Waiting till I see the detail of reduced costs to industry.....t'aint Christmas yet is it..??
Am 'away' at the mo, and don't know how to 'right click' on me I-pad to copy and paste, or supply the link...
Dinasoor....
Ta
That is an 'interesting' last para....by gum...
Waiting till I see the detail of reduced costs to industry.....t'aint Christmas yet is it..??
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AOPA are taking some credit
CASA has announced that the implementation of legislation relating to Part 61, 141 & 142 has been deferred from 04 December 2013 to September 2014 - a period of 9 months.
This is largely as a result of pressure from AOPA and other industry bodies/organisations seeking clarification from CASA regarding certain anomalies which appeared in the proposed legislation changes.
AOPA will continue to work for the benefit of its members and the industry as a whole.
This is largely as a result of pressure from AOPA and other industry bodies/organisations seeking clarification from CASA regarding certain anomalies which appeared in the proposed legislation changes.
AOPA will continue to work for the benefit of its members and the industry as a whole.
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The 9 month delay is a smart move, despite our having to endure the 'old' system for a time longer...
Our training organisation, holding regular team meetings to discuss and develop understanding of the new structure, came up with pages of questions that were simply unanswerable or stonewalled by CASA employees. This leads me to think the actual reason there is a delay is not the industries inability to adapt in time, but CASA's inability to effectively interpret and disseminate their own proposed changes.
Talk about a completely disjointed operation. Who is writing these rules and not telling the rest of CASA about it???
Our training organisation, holding regular team meetings to discuss and develop understanding of the new structure, came up with pages of questions that were simply unanswerable or stonewalled by CASA employees. This leads me to think the actual reason there is a delay is not the industries inability to adapt in time, but CASA's inability to effectively interpret and disseminate their own proposed changes.
Talk about a completely disjointed operation. Who is writing these rules and not telling the rest of CASA about it???
Did you see that CASA are blaming the delay on industry
Civil Aviation Safety Authority - New implementation timetable for licensing suite
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CASA was unable to answer basic questions from industry about how it will work and now its the industry's fault.
need to give the aviation industry more time to prepare for the commencement of the new regulations.
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CASA was unable to answer basic questions from industry about how it will work and now its the industry's fault.
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Continuity - anyone?
Sarcs # 43 – "CASA will ensure the highest possible safety outcomes continue to be achieved with a reasonable level of regulatory requirements. This is in line with the Federal Government’s policy on reducing regulatory burdens on costs to industry."
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Interesting to note that in the minutes from the CASA Standards Consultative Committee meeting held 4 July 2012, it was stated:
John McCormick, CASA Director of Aviation Safety remarked that he is cognisant of the burden on industry to keep up with change. He reported that at the recent Senate Inquiry, the recommendation was to accelerate Parts 61, 141 and 142 – to introduce these by the end of the year. To continue, John stated that CASA has gained significant momentum over the last few years with the establishment of the Aviation Regulation Task Force, which was formed in concert with the Attorney General’s Department and that he was loathe to disrupt this demonstrably successful initiative. However, John said, CASA can and will moderate the commencement date of the new regulation suites and develop savings provisions as necessary as the amount of transition that is required by the industry is assessed with the overriding caveat that many of the remaining regulatory parts must be introduced and implemented as one package, they cannot viably stand-alone.
Link to SCC meeting minutes page 5&6
Link to SCC meeting minutes page 5&6
God I hope the rest of the Aviation world isn't looking to close at us & if they are then they are probably thinking that Capt Cook still has the Endeavor anchored off the coast!!!!
In what a little over 200 years we have built a handful of outdated congested dromes, an ATC system that suits the Wright Bro's days, a regulatory body that ought to get back on that ship & sail back to the mother country & get the flogging themselves over there, shameful & that's just the Aviation sector of this backward country!!!
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In what a little over 200 years we have built a handful of outdated congested dromes, an ATC system that suits the Wright Bro's days, a regulatory body that ought to get back on that ship & sail back to the mother country & get the flogging themselves over there, shameful & that's just the Aviation sector of this backward country!!!
Wmk2
CASA were really on the proverbial 'hiding-to-nothing' once they'd run their expensive series of explanation/training meetings.
In the face of all their demonstrated inability to answer many quite important questions - they could hardly have persisted and implemented Part 61. There would have been a well defined paper trail right back to the top of CASA - and with a Ministerial Review coming up, they could hardly afford that.
So, the alternative was chosen. Present the delay as being the fault of a dumb industry - and they, CASA, are 'here-to-help'. Then, when the fan has been cleaned - rewrite Part 61 with exactly the same rules included, but couched in ever more legalistic terminology - and viola....we have the final solution!!
happy days,
In the face of all their demonstrated inability to answer many quite important questions - they could hardly have persisted and implemented Part 61. There would have been a well defined paper trail right back to the top of CASA - and with a Ministerial Review coming up, they could hardly afford that.
So, the alternative was chosen. Present the delay as being the fault of a dumb industry - and they, CASA, are 'here-to-help'. Then, when the fan has been cleaned - rewrite Part 61 with exactly the same rules included, but couched in ever more legalistic terminology - and viola....we have the final solution!!
happy days,
So, now I have an AOC which expires at the end of June so will have to go to all the expense of renewing it for just three months before it is obsolete, or just cease trading for three months might be easier. 
Part 61 gone?
It would seen that Part 61 has been postponed and the reason given by CASA is we pilots are a bit slow in catching on and are resisting change.
At a recent PDP hosted by CASA and attended by yours truly at considerable expence we learned mostly that CASA were unable to answer a lot of questions relating to this fiasco and were commonly heard stating "we are still working on that". At the time I wondered how so much could be achieved by December the 4th.
Just glad to know that us pilots are to blame
At a recent PDP hosted by CASA and attended by yours truly at considerable expence we learned mostly that CASA were unable to answer a lot of questions relating to this fiasco and were commonly heard stating "we are still working on that". At the time I wondered how so much could be achieved by December the 4th.
Just glad to know that us pilots are to blame
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Bloody pilots..CASAs job would be so much easier without them!!
..and while we're at it..if they could get rid of aircraft too, then they could achieve so much more!
..and while we're at it..if they could get rid of aircraft too, then they could achieve so much more!