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Really good forward planning by RFDS. 
More and more grey nomads are being attracted to the beautiful W.A. Northwest. And local medical facilities are already under pressure from them. So really good medivac facilities into the future will certainly save lives. Money well spent.
More and more grey nomads are being attracted to the beautiful W.A. Northwest. And local medical facilities are already under pressure from them. So really good medivac facilities into the future will certainly save lives. Money well spent.
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mmm maybe the super base that they be building in broome
The cheapest and most effective option would be to base them all at Jandakot, but given the runway lengths at Jandakot, it may have to be Perth.
Basing them all at Perth would be interesting, given how capacity constrained that aerodrome already is.
And to really minimise the costs, the pilot group would have to be separate from the PC12 group - with a different employment agreement.
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Why would the runway lengths at Jandakot be a problem?
The stats for the PC-24 show a balanced field length of 820m at MTOW (which seems like part of the attraction for RFDS).
The stats for the PC-24 show a balanced field length of 820m at MTOW (which seems like part of the attraction for RFDS).
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Why would the runway lengths at Jandakot be a problem?
Because of the 1.67 factor they will need to apply to the book landing distance figures.
What are they saying for the landing distance?
If you start with the greatest LDA at YPJT, which is 1,274 m for runway 06L, and work backwards through the 1.67 factor, you get a theoretical book figure of 762 metres.
So, to land legally at YPJT the book figure for the landing distance required will need to show 762 metres or less. That is getting a bit tight.
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From the Pilatus website:
Landing distance over 50 ft obstacle 2,525 ft 770 m
Balanced field length (MTOW, ISA, sea level, dry paved runway) 2,690 ft 820 m
If they can make those figures it shouldn't be a problem!
Landing distance over 50 ft obstacle 2,525 ft 770 m
Balanced field length (MTOW, ISA, sea level, dry paved runway) 2,690 ft 820 m
If they can make those figures it shouldn't be a problem!
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super base at Broome is happening. Short jump to just about every where in the Kimberly's plus Broome hospital the preferred over Derby now, what ive been told wont be long before work starts on the base here. Why base them all down south were medical attention is a lot closer than up in that part of the world
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Base them up there to feed the new super hospital in Perth.
It's cheaper to run a fleet of aircraft than to try and build, and more difficult - staff, a new first-world facility in the northwest where the population is booming; grey nomads and youngsters alike.
It's cheaper to run a fleet of aircraft than to try and build, and more difficult - staff, a new first-world facility in the northwest where the population is booming; grey nomads and youngsters alike.
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I believe RFDS ops are AWK category?
Landing distance over 50 ft obstacle 2,525 ft 770 m
Assuming the 1.67 factor, I would say there would be too many occasions when a landing at YPJT could not legally be made.
Base them up there ...
And, there is almost no tangible benefit in doing so. With an evacuation to Perth from a community in the remote Kimberley, the time impact on the RFDS is less if the PC24 comes from Perth. This is because the first stage of the retrieval would have to be done by the PC12.
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To you caring guys there 'Wally' doesn't do SE anymore especially in Med Ops, too dangerous so like to do direct entry on to new shinny toy jet TY:-)
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You're too soft Wally,
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Gidday Howard. That number is based on ISA temperature I would assume. For about 90% of the year, Jandakot would be above ISA. Significantly above for about 50% of the year, I would say.
Assuming the 1.67 factor, I would say there would be too many occasions when a landing at YPJT could not legally be made.
Assuming the 1.67 factor, I would say there would be too many occasions when a landing at YPJT could not legally be made.
From CAO 20.7.1B
11.3 For subparagraph 4.1 (d) and paragraph 5.1, an aeroplane engaged in private, or aerial work, operations must be operated so that compliance with the landing requirements is demonstrated using data set out in:
(a) the flight manual; or
(b) the manufacturer’s data manual; or
(c) the approved foreign flight manual.
Note: The data contained in some manufacturers’ data manuals is unfactored and makes no allowance for degraded aircraft performance.
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Factoring or no factoring, if you knew the development plans for Jandakot airport you would know that runway length is not likely to be one of the long term problems - don't you think the RFDS would have thought about that also?! Remember this jet is still some years away...
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... but aerial work does not require factoring.
The aeromedical operators will then have to operate to charter standards, which require the 1.67 landing distance factor for aircraft above 5,700 kg MTOW.
... if you knew the development plans for Jandakot airport ...
If you know of other plans, please tell.